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    The title does not claim it is a psychedelic. I quoted the title. The article is about people using it as an alternative to psychedelic substances.

    The title makes the claim that the LD50 is lower.

    • The title makes the claim that the LD50 is lower.

      The title:

      Emerging Psychedelic Mushroom Alternative More Toxic Than Fentanyl, New Research Suggests

      Does not make that claim. It is also written in a way that can be confused with saying that amanita is psychedelic. However, reading the article makes it easier to understand the word vomit of that title better.

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        That is exactly the claim the title is making? The LD50 is the entire point. What other metric could those words be referencing?

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            It’s more toxic than fentanyl, yes… that’s the claim? I’m confused haha.

            Are you saying the headline is not about toxicity?

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              When I hear “psychedelic mushroom alternative” I think 4-aco-dmt (a psilocybin analogue), or some other psychedelic that’s cheaper or easier to get than shrooms. It’s surprising to me that it’s referencing a totally different drug with totally different effects. I’d be about as surprised if someone called alcohol or weed a “psychedelic alternative”

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      One wouldn’t be too foolish to assume that a “psychedelic mushroom alternative” would be psychedelic. Fact of the matter is, these mushrooms are not even close to a psychedelic and to advertise them as such is scam levels of misleading.

      Furthermore, lately amanitas are being proven very useful for benzo withdrawal and recovery. Now, I do not disagree with knowing everything about a substance and the science behind it… But come on! They’re comparing it to fentanyl in the article! Things like that are only going to get them made illegal and stigmatized. This makes medical research harder to do and takes potential medicine away from the people who could actually use it!

      Other than that, I was mostly just trying to give the people who clicked the thing some straight information. If they’re clicking the thing they’re likely already intrigued by it or psychedelics.

      I wasn’t particularly intending to attack the article in any way other than the premise set by the title. I personally really enjoy amanitas but their effects aren’t exactly what most people are looking for.

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        It is compared to fentanyl because the lethal dose is lower. I’m still not hearing what you think is inaccurate here

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          I’m not having an argument about semantics with you. I am simply a lover of amanitas trying to spread information. Have a nice day or whatever the fuck.

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            Spreading misinformation, apparently? There’s no semantics in “lethal dosage”

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                If you really want to go on the record that you put out misinformation, go for it

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                  Aight. So you’re taking the projections route.

                  Dude man please for your own sake please learn how to read. I don’t know how to make myself more clear and I don’t know how to dumb things down enough for you to understand that I am not trying to argue with you.

                  I’ve spent enough time with you. I’d normally tell you to go back to Reddit but clearly that’s too much intellect for you. Go crawl back into the YouTube comments where you belong.