This was bound to happen, and it’s ridiculous

  • chrislowles@lemmy.zip
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    1 month ago

    Either introduce legislation that enforces standardized parental controls for parents to monitor or shut the fuck up.

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    1 month ago

    ffs, authoritarian overreaching technologically illiterate BS. This also won’t work if you’re determined, make sure you have a paid up VPS!

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    I guess it’s just too late for all those children that viewed porn. The piles of their dead bodies must be enormous!

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    ministers told

    By a bunch of religious assholes that want more power

    By a bunch of corporate assholes that want more money

    By a bunch of politician assholes that want more power

    Did I forget anyone? Nobody wants this, none of this has to do with child safety, it’s all transparent lies to get more for them and less for us. Let’s break the entire internet so that a very small group has more

    Fuck all of you assholes, o hope you all die soon, the world would be souch better and nicer.

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      So SSH tunneling it is

      That is until encryption is outlawed altogether making the internet truly a horrible place to be

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        That is until encryption is outlawed

        Like all things that are prohibited it will just go underground.

        So long as two computers are able to talk to one an other it will be possible to encrypt that traffic>

  • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    I’m getting to the point where I’d rather see csam legalized than this shit. (Keep reading)

    Think about it: csam will happen, period. I’m not world’s best computer engineer but even Incan build something that embeds data like text or images in other files in ways that cannot be detected. I can build basic but effective encryption that will be hard enough to crack. I can find ways to exchange files outside the internet, hell, do sneakernet

    And kids watching porn online? They’ll have their buddies who have libraries that will be copied. A single USB drive can contain days of porn videos and you can’t stop that either

    Then there are these laws that “are to protect children” which makes me just outright want to vomit. You take victims of child pornography and use them for your political gain, for your power. You are almost worse than pedophiles. At least pedophiles harm only one child, you harm all of them you sack of fucking shit.

    And no, of course I don’t want child pornography legalized, of course not by what is the solution?

    These assholes have been at it for decades now and they play the long game. They can lose every year and come back next year. They only have to win once and they move on to he next good thing they can destroy.

    So what can we actually really seriously do to stop this?

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      We had hardcore magazines that circulated back in the days before easy internet. Guess the last time children didn’t have access was probably in the 18th century or so.

      Guess the next step is controlling all chat groups, emails and cloud spaces to “avoid children exploiting these”…

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    This pisses me off so much. They don’t give a single solitary fuck about kids OR their safety online. If they did, they wouldn’t do it like this. If/when I have kids, they’re not getting a smartphone until they turn 14. Until then, they’ll be using a flip phone to contact me. THAT’S how you create a safe online environment for kids, not by banning VPNs which takes away privacy rights from everyone else. They just want to control us and take our right to privacy away but they don’t realize that a strict government creates the best liars. If they ban VPNs, people WILL find a way to consume whatever content they desire regardless of what the government says. This can only end badly and make life hell for everyone below a certain tax bracket. Although, I guess that was their goal at the very beginning so I’m just being redundant.

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        I wouldn’t be surprised if they did tbh. The ones at the top get what they want and if they see flash drives as a threat, they’ll try to ban 'em.

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        No the next thing will be to ban porn completely. Look at Project 2025. It’s in the list. Granted this is a US based initiative but other countries seem to be speed running the checklist.

        The document’s foreword asserts that pornography is not protected by the First Amendment and “should be outlawed,” calling for criminal prosecution of producers and distributors and shuttering tech/telecom companies that facilitate its spread

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            When you have a shit-ton of money and a system rigged in your favor, anything’s possible. Hell, for example, if they found a way to ban sexual acts and procreation (what we’ve been doing since the beginning of our species) whatsoever and restrict it to selected individuals that THEY choose, they’d change the laws to suit them, begin the brainwashing of their supporters under the guise of “the greater good,” and then they’d do it and everyone that voted for it would act surprised like any of what happened wasn’t foretold years prior.

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    I’ve been biting my tongue hard these past few months in a concerted effort not to be offensive. I’m not trying to be intentionally offensive, however, I feel there is an element in this situation that is being disregarded in favor of someone else doing your work. When I say ‘You’, Your’, etc, I mean it in the royal sense. So, warm up the downvote finger and man the flame throwers.

    If it’s genuinely for the children, then when are we going to require parents to be parents? Look, you brought this service into your home voluntarily. You might say ‘Well I need it for work’ or ‘I need it for school’. Tons of people use hundreds of thousands of hotspots daily to do their thing on the internet. This service you voluntarily brought into your house, has both the ability to be highly beneficial and highly detrimental all in the same breath. Technology always, always, always wields a double edged sword.

    And what do the majority of parents do with such power? They give it to their vulnerable, under aged, highly curious, children, un-monitored, uncensored, and uninhibited. Are you insane? So when little Johnny is caught surfing porn hub, the parents freak and cry out to their government ‘We need to ban porn!’ No! What we need is for parents to be parents.

    There are literally hundreds of services, and ways to lock down your internet. I hear parents say ‘I’m not technologically inclined.’ Get there. The safety and well being of your children hang in the balance. Take a class at your local Tech College. I’d be willing to bet that when little Johnny’s mom was pregnant, she most likely did some reading on the topic. Some even take a class on childbirth. The internet should be no different. Access one or two of the billions of tuts out on the internet.

    Now, will locking down your internet like a multi-billion dollar enterprise with a Brinks Kit keep little Johnny from seeing some skin? No! Why? Because it’s natural for humans to want to see what other humans look like naked. Children are naturally inquisitive. The prime directive of all life is to replicate. So, have frank, open, direct, and yes, awkward conversations with your children. Let them know in no uncertain terms what is acceptable on your network. Tell them why these things are not appropriate for their age group. This relationship with your children starts at Day 1.

    You have 18 years of boot camp to equip your children with all the tools necessary to make wise, prudent decisions in life. You probably taught them how to ride a bicycle, or drive a car, or any number of teaching opportunities parents have with their children. The internet should be no different. We live in a technological time line that is ever changing, so it behooves parents to know exactly what is going on with their technology and how their children are using it. Get with it.

    Being a parent takes work. Being a network administrator also takes work. Anyone who is a seasoned veteran of this chan knows, to secure a network in order to be as private, secure, and anonymous as possible on the internet, takes work. I find, a large portion of parents are unwilling to do the work and would rather fob off their responsibilities as a parent, to the government having jurisdiction. I’m not painting all parents with this brush. Kudos to parents who are very involved in their children’s lives. There are enough of them tho, that are not, and this is a big issue. It gives governments the justification they desire to surveil their citizenry.

    Let the roast begin.

    • Sturgist@lemmy.ca
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      So, warm up the downvote finger and man the flame throwers.

      cracks knuckles, pulls out pitchfork and flamethrower

      reads full comment

      Goddamnit… they’re right…

      throws toys out the pram

    • Crozekiel@lemmy.zip
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      “I need internet at home for work!” - Okay, so plug in the one computer you work on? Do you really need to blast 100% of your home with internet via Wi-Fi, probably not. Even if you do (for some reason), why do you then also have to give little Timmy a Wi-Fi capable tablet at all? Download some episodes of Paw Patrol and let your kid watch them offline…

      • irmadlad@lemmy.world
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        Can’t tell if serious. I am older than the internet. I’m not sure what that has to do with the issues of governmental surveillance under the guise of ‘for the chirren.’

        • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
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          I’m not totally fine but I’m not not fine either, and I would say it’s kind of because the internet but it’s also not because the internet.

          Either way, mom and dad would have had no chance of stopping me unless they turned the house into 1984 in 1996, which would have been way worse than anything the internet did to me (except for all the shit we’re living through of course !)