• samus12345@sh.itjust.works
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    6 days ago

    Years ago I used my USAA card to pay for food at a mall food court and the cashier gave me a military discount since my dad used to be in the army. Only time that’s ever happened. I didn’t ask for it, but I certainly didn’t turn it down.

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    6 days ago

    My Dad died five years ago, and my mom will still spend 15 minutes haggling over his 10% military discount at Lowe’s over $20 worth of plants. She doesn’t do it anywhere else, just Lowe’s.

    JFC, Mom, here’s two bucks, let’s move on.

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    The only time I would give a military discount would be if you are a military member that meets the following criteria:

    • You were conscripted for a defensive war

    OR

    • You volunteered (as in you weren’t paid) to fight a defensive war

    If you fight for a professional army, you’re a professional, and professionals don’t need discounts because they’re doing what they’re paid to do.

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    7 days ago

    Maybe I’m weird, but I guess I don’t care about military discounts. I probably just don’t have much experience with veterans. But like we give senior citizens discounts some places, because it’s expected they don’t have much money. And there’s lots of old folks who need it. Haven’t military folks traditionally had a hard time reintegrating? Like isn’t that the plot of “the forever war”? If it helps the ones who need it then good. Helping people in need is a good thing. I’m probably missing something so let me know what it is.

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      That’s not what a military discount is or does. It’s for active duty only, or full time retired, meaning you need an active and valid military ID on your person that matches YOU. Not your wife, not your friend Larry, not your brother Darrell, not your OTHER brother Darrell, YOU. It’s one of the things that makes life harder for people who leave the military. And while your in it, it does you little good.

      I know this because I’ve managed stores with military discounts. The only thing worse than having to say ‘‘we don’t do that’’ is ‘‘Yes we do’’ Because the reality is that unless your talking to an old guy in a military insignia cap, or a surprisingly young enlisted person in uniform or military sweats, they aren’t getting the ID. You got your shins blown off in Vietnam? Well fuck you, the discount is for active enlisted and CAREER officers. No one the fuck else. Guess how many dessert storm, Vietnam, Iraq, Korean War, or WWII vets like hearing that shit explained to them. They are LIVID. They want ass pats and bjs they don’t want to hear they can’t save $0.07 on a pile of lumber because they didn’t make being drafted a career just got PTSD and forever shrapnel. I LOVE telling people no discount for anyone. It’s fantastic.

      • greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        6 days ago

        Ah I get it now, yup that is shitty. I have some compassion for someone who was stupid enough as a kid to enlist. But only for active members? Love how in America we all get fucked over, unless you win the wealth lottery.

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          Yeah and while your in, you don’t have the free time or money to use a military discount for anything significant.

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      7 days ago

      There are two ways to look at it, as I understand:

      1. Many (certainly not all) vets have a chip on their shoulder and expect white glove treatment. Kind of like a less whiny Karen.

      2. Many are of the belief that we should not reward people for aiding the government in its atrocities.

      I think the meme is an exaggeration of those positions.

  • PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social
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    7 days ago

    When I worked in a commissioned sales job (read: professional capitalist thief) a coworker told me how he loved to have hot chicks as customers and he would always give them a discount.

    I was like man “these girls get everything for free and discounts everywhere they go. Ipso facto they have more money to spend. Stop giving them discounts. Charge them more “

    The weird thing ; they respected him for it.

    Not sure where I’m going with this.

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    I’m not from the U.S., but why would people from the military get a discount? If you do that as a store, why not doctors and nurses too? Why stop there and why not include firefighters, government workers or teachers?

    And who compensates you as a business owner for these giveaways? If your store happens to be close to an army base, do you just accept the disadvantage of giving away part of your profit?

    It sounds pretty stupid. People should get paid enough to pay full price for their stuff. Especially by the government. Especially in a country that allocates an enormous part of their GDP to their military.

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      “Land of the free, home of the brave”, but with the caveat that those other professions don’t qualify as brave enough is my guess.

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      Teachers did actually get benefits in my country until 2016. It was a pretty decent system.

      If you are a landlord then having an operational school nearby increases local rent prices so you do get to profit from charging teachers less rent.

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      Many Americans have an uncanny reverence for the military and those who served. I guess that reverence seeped its way into many a retail store’s management.

      I think it’s just about optics for the most part.

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      7 days ago

      If your store happens to be close to an army base, do you just accept the disadvantage of giving away part of your profit?

      No they just raise the base price for everyone.

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      7 days ago

      I could be wrong here… but around the George W. Bush administration + 9/11 and the government painting everything they do as something to protect “against the terrorists!!!” that’s when a lot of things started happening.

      That’s when the view of the military seemed to flip and it’s just been stuck that way. Movies like Top Gun were made as a PR stunt to make the military look better. The same is for basically every cop show out there: make cops look like the good guys. Anywho, every company went out of their way to really show “how much they support the troops” by giving a discount. And every smooth-brain started saying “THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE” every single time. The hero worship was/is real, and it shouldn’t be, and it’s a real problem. (Totally different conversation, but it’s led to an influx of people joining the military, or trying to, who really shouldn’t). Before Bush + 9/11, I don’t recall military discounts outside of, like, businesses that were owned/operated by vets.

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        I’ve heard that some food joints would offer military discounts back when people were figuring out how bad Vietnam was especially with how many vets were coming back broken and homeless. Theres at least one place near me that’s had a veterans discount as far back as '78, they also let folks camp out in their parking lot since it was a bit bigger to accommodate the firetrucks since they were in a more central location than the fire station at the time.

        Rambling aside, veterans discount started out as a way to help conscripted veterans during and after the fustercluck that was Vietnam and then was hijacked at some point.

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          Ah. So possible it was cranked up to 11 (no pun intended) after 9/11. That, or its frequency illusion, and I just never noticed really before a certain point.

    • Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca
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      7 days ago

      Actually that is not that insane. Canadian military often gets to take advantage to discounts in America.

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        6 days ago

        That something happens in America is not an indication that it isn’t insane.

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    8 days ago

    As a military veteran, this makes me a little sad… but the whole military discount thing has always made me feel weird. I mean, I’m no hero. I spent 20 years sitting at a desk, fixing computers. Why should I deserve a discount over any other office worker?

    I currently live in an area far away from any military bases, so I’ve mostly stopped asking about military/veteran discounts. Most people here aren’t used to military being around this area anyway so there’s rarely a discount to offer. And I don’t really care if I get a discount or not; it doesn’t hurt me to pay full price.

    But I’ve definitely worked with service members who would boycott businesses near our bases if they refused to provide a military discount. Some people get really entitled about their status. Those were the worst people I had to deal with in the service.

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      7 days ago

      But I’ve definitely worked with service members who would boycott businesses near our bases if they refused to provide a military discount.

      that seems like a plus

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      I know you got paid to be there, but still. A country without a military, even in times of “peace”, is a scary thing. Especially given the direction the world is heading these days… sure you sat behind a desk but who knows what you may have been needed to do if called upon in a worst case scenario, and so for that I say thank you for your service 🙏

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      Seems like if you run a business near a military base then you would just set your prices X% higher than you really want to set them, and then offer an X% discount to all the people who shop there, knowing that everyone will wind up paying what you originally wanted to charge anyway

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        7 days ago

        I worked at a popular restaurant near a major VA hospital, and this is how I explained why we only had a military discount for active duty, not veterans. Surprisingly, it seemed like a satisfactory explanation more often than not.

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        Related: JC Penney very publicly stopped pretending everything was always on sale, and just set everything to the “sale” price.

        Despite the publicity of the move, sales tanked. Just a few months later, everyone involved was sacked, and they went back to pretending everything was always on sale.

  • ivanafterall ☑️@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    Idea for any leftist bakeries out there: charge military members even more, veterans even more still. Refuse to make them cake! Make a big deal about it. Enjoy your free national media attention. Send me a little cut.

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    You can’t get your discount without going through the ID me website nowadays anyway… it doesn’t work nor have human contact points, it’s impossible for older veterans to use and it says half of us don’t even exist so basically military discounts have become enshitified as well . It does however take millions of dollars from the government to obstruct Our discounts and your unemployment and disability benefits. We’re in this together whether you like it or not

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    I never even think to ask for a discount unless it’s a large purchase. Then I’m just looking for any discount I can get. Or if it’s a right leaning, boot licking type of place.

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    Serious question - in places where they offer military or veteran discount how do you check? Do you ask them to show some relevant id?

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        No they don’t. People who separated and didn’t retire are veterans, but don’t get military IDs. They can get a VA ID or some states will add veteran to their license.

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                Comment history*

                Apologies, I often forget I’m an extremely poor communicator in a community filled with intelligent neurodivergent people, and I need to contextualize better.

                Which makes me an idiot. Not a coward. - to answer your question

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                  I mean I scrolled thru your comments too but there was nothing that stood out to me. I don’t know how your comment history is supposed to show you are an idiot but I’m willing to take your word for it

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      8 days ago

      My dad is a veteran, and he will sometimes ask, and sometimes they will ask him. Almost always, especially in restaurants, he just says that he is, and they give him the discount.

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      The big box hardware stores, Home Depot and Lowe’s have sort of set the standard. There are a few ID cards that they accept as proof.

      At the end of the day it is up to each store how they handle it.