• Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
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        Some of them did. We all know a few people that would go ahead and fuck what the rest of us would be scared to go near. Those genes survived too.

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          If those genes didn’t exist, you can be pretty sure that lineage would be less likely to survive.

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    The humanoids we evolved from were at one point, not the only humanoids around. We coexisted with other, different species (neanderthals being an example). Homosapien is just the one that survived.

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        I mean, racism has as much reason to exist now as it ever did. “I’ll protect me and what’s mine” has been the dividing line between species for thousands of years, and we have to choose whether we’ll continue it. A “Kill or be killed” mindset might keep you safe, but you’ll never know if the person you killed did indeed mean you harm, or if you could’ve instead lived without killing, and broke bread with a rival. The logic still applies

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    I mean, we existed as the same time as other early ape species (which we killed off like the monsters we are), so it makes sense.

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    Our instincts draw from pretty far back in our biological origins as well. The notion of mimiclike predators is pretty damned ancient and likely a factor for very earliest common ancestry.

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      Mimiclike predators sound like psychopaths. Which, very much would be a reason we evolved uncanny valley, but they learned to blend in.

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        There’s also the concept of gender blindness until it became necessary to differentiate between groups and eventually people.

        Sorta like the story of the color blue.

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          Psychopath is derived from Ancient Greek… And even besides that, laymen generally use the term to describe ASPD despite the two conditions not being entirely the same. Don’t be obtuse.

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            Yes, I’m aware that the word has been used as a slur against people with ASPD and other mental illnesses, what’s your point?

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    “But in general, take my advice, when you meet anything that’s going to be Human and isn’t yet, or used to be Human once and isn’t now, or ought to be Human and isn’t, you keep your eyes on it and feel for your hatchet.”

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    We still do. They’re called psychopaths. It’s been a problem for so long that we’ve evolved an instinctual response to it.

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      Have we though? We still vote for them and populate the business rooms with them…

      …my theory is different. I think this is evolutionary back to competition with similar species.

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    Not necessarily fear it’s just most of the time today it’s used in horror

    Back then it was probably used to differentiate Neanderthals

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    Or it’s just that something feels off, fellow human.

    On the other hand, maybe because we’re a highly social species and some people are just crazy, which you see in their face or behavior.

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    Or you need to identify those who aren’t behaving properly (sickness or other resource intense disability) and should be outcast from the group (something we don’t need to do today, but the right wing narrative insists that need to do)

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      we should be outcasting all sorts of toxic behaviors instead of putting them in charge.

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      Actually, tribal humans tend to support people with disabilities, even severe ones. It’s only feudal and capitalist societies that treat disabled people with cruelty. It isn’t natural.

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        I was thinking psychopath. Someone who tries to blend in and act normal but never quite gets it. We have no problem be horrors to other species, but early humans couldn’t afford a psychopath willing and wanting to kill their own tribe.

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          Psychopath is just Latin for mentally ill person. Someone suffering from depression is a “psychopath”, and no, depressed people aren’t dangerous. What the fuck is wrong with you?

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            Even though that’s what the latin translation is, that’s not what the word means. The definition is “Psychopathy, or psychopathic personality is a personality construct characterized by impaired empathy and remorse, and bold, disinhibited, and egocentric traits masked by superficial charm and the outward presence of apparent normality”.

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                Okay, first of all: the DSM is used primarily in North America. The majority of the world uses ICDM.

                Secondly, the DSM has gone through many iterations and changes. For instance, DSM-I and -II contained psychopathy as a mental illness. It was replaced by ASPD in DSM-III. What we term today as “major depressive disorder” was also introduced in DSM-III. Did depression not exist prior to the third DSM? Did ASPD not exist? Does psychopathy not exist now that it has been replaced by ASPD?

                Thirdly, there’s so much bloody overlap in conditions listed in the DSM that you could present two psychiatrists with the same list of symptoms and they would diagnose two different disorders. And to my mind, this lends more credence to the first DSM’s principle classifications of psychotic, neurotic, and behavioural disorders.

                To summarize, the DSM is regional and therefore cannot be applied globally. It describes medical conditions and those medical conditions can be redefined at any time. And it is borderline unreliable due to diagnostic confusion and overspecification. In short, the presence or lack thereof of some cluster of symptoms in the DSM is not an indicator of the existence of a condition.

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                  The DSM removed it because it was fake. Early psychologists believed in it, and over time they were proven wrong, so the official materials were revised.

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            Are you legitimately stupid? Do you not understand what the commonly accepted definition is for psychopath?

            I suggest you figure it out before spouting Reddit level drivel.

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      something we don’t need to do today, but the right wing narrative insists that need to do

      People keep saying this, but I really don’t see right wingers arguing for outcasting people.

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        I’m sorry, you don’t see phobias in the right wing?

        It’s proven right wing individuals have more active fear trigger regions of the brain.

        Building a wall and shutting down the border, letting people die of dehydration in the desert, are policies from the left wing?

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    I call this feeling “The Holy Spirit” and no I’m not religious, hear me out.

    So there’s “The Father” which is you, in charge of everything.

    Then there’s “The Son” which is your Jesus, the bit of you that does shit mostly perfectly without any input from you. The scary example of this is when you drive to work and can’t remember the drive at all. Jesus Take the wheel. Teach your Jesus right and you can trust he’ll do things fine.

    Then The Holy Spirit, which is that part of you that sees everything, before the filters are applied, and let’s you know something is off. There’s no obvious reason for it, but there’s something off about this guy and we need to get away from him as soon as possible and never interact with them again.

    The Jesus part is the important bit for most of us. Learning to play the guitar? Teach your Jesus. When you’ve practiced enough you can just trust that Jesus will hit the notes while you concentrate on singing along.

    When I learned to Juggle I just taught my Jesus how to throw properly so it lands in the other hand.

    At work I teach my Jesus how to do the manual labour, do the checks I need to do, and I can concentrate on ripping on my work colleagues.