DandomRude@lemmy.world to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 month agoWhat is your opinion on national pride / patriotism?message-squaremessage-square82linkfedilinkarrow-up11arrow-down10
arrow-up11arrow-down1message-squareWhat is your opinion on national pride / patriotism?DandomRude@lemmy.world to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 month agomessage-square82linkfedilink
minus-squarepH3ra@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up0·edit-21 month agoIt’s a coping mechanism that gives people who achieved nothing in their life something to brag about
minus-squarefrightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up0·1 month agoSome of my life-achievements involved contributing to my nation.
minus-squareAngry_Autist (he/him)@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up0·1 month agoOk, good, that’s you, a productive citizen following the social contract BUT Most people who wear the flag and shout that they are patriots have been nothing but leeches on the nation
minus-squarepH3ra@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up0·1 month agoGood for you man, but in this case I guess that you’re proud of yourself and in the achievements that helped the people around you. You don’t have “second hand pride with extra narrative on top” from people that died long before you were born
minus-squarefrightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up0·1 month ago You don’t have “second hand pride with extra narrative on top” from people that died long before you were born The individualists in this thread are saying: Your personal conduct didn’t form your nation And personal conduct is the only valid source of pride Therefore you can’t be proud of your nation And I don’t agree with the 2nd premise at all. People are social beings and there’s lots of examples of collective pride.
minus-squareAngry_Autist (he/him)@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up0·1 month agoFucking thank you, this is so much more concise than what I wrote and encapsulates it fully like sports clubs but a bit deadlier
It’s a coping mechanism that gives people who achieved nothing in their life something to brag about
Some of my life-achievements involved contributing to my nation.
Ok, good, that’s you, a productive citizen following the social contract
BUT
Most people who wear the flag and shout that they are patriots have been nothing but leeches on the nation
Good for you man, but in this case I guess that you’re proud of yourself and in the achievements that helped the people around you.
You don’t have “second hand pride with extra narrative on top” from people that died long before you were born
The individualists in this thread are saying:
And I don’t agree with the 2nd premise at all. People are social beings and there’s lots of examples of collective pride.
Fucking thank you, this is so much more concise than what I wrote and encapsulates it fully
like sports clubs but a bit deadlier