• Angry_Autist (he/him)@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      Ok, good, that’s you, a productive citizen following the social contract

      BUT

      Most people who wear the flag and shout that they are patriots have been nothing but leeches on the nation

    • pH3ra@lemmy.ml
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      1 month ago

      Good for you man, but in this case I guess that you’re proud of yourself and in the achievements that helped the people around you.
      You don’t have “second hand pride with extra narrative on top” from people that died long before you were born

      • frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml
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        1 month ago

        You don’t have “second hand pride with extra narrative on top” from people that died long before you were born

        The individualists in this thread are saying:

        • Your personal conduct didn’t form your nation
        • And personal conduct is the only valid source of pride
        • Therefore you can’t be proud of your nation

        And I don’t agree with the 2nd premise at all. People are social beings and there’s lots of examples of collective pride.