I think for those types of communities having it be open but restricting commenting to flaired users that are verified makes way more sense. I’m not sure if that’s possible on Lemmy, but it’s an easy way to have the best of both worlds.
if you don’t want to interact with half of community, why not just, dunno…limit visibility?
It’s not on the community to make it harder for their target audience to find them. It’s on people who scroll the All feed to leave posts alone that don’t concern them.
I don’t see a problem with being public and having limiting rules - it’s perfectly fine for women or minority groups to have their own spaces - but never before have I seen such an odd approach to moderating. I too tumbled on one of their threads from ALL and it felt like at least third of the comments there was responded with, paraphrasing, “please never post again”. If every discussion reaching ALL gets like that, I’d imagine it would be easier to figure out some other solution, since it takes such insane amount of effort to go through so many comments and probably profiles and posting history to know who to reply that to, from moderating perspective. Or are they just saying that to everyone? Or everyone not subbed?? I doubt that many people getting answered with “please never post again” would want to join even if they did qualify…
It’s just… I don’t understand the logistics of all that
If the post is in all it’s in the public forum You don’t get to have your safe space in the public forum. If you say something in public then be prepared. If you want to reach the public because of higher traffic does not mean you can tell people not to respond. I know that people will argue that it’s not fair but it gives off sealioning, im not touching you vibes.
The rules are not displayed in the All feed. Some specific communities are still welcoming of people who are not the topic being discussed.
When you click a post, the rules might be hidden or at the bottom of the page. Do you take the effort to read all of the rules before posting in every community on the All feed?
Do you take the time before voting, since some communities have banned down voting?
When you click a post, the rules might be hidden or at the bottom of the page.
It’s literally the topmost rule of the sidebar. If your client doesn’t display the sidebar properly, that’s on you and your choice of client. Default lemmy-ui displays it just fine.
Plus if you click on the comments indicator it scrolls down to the top comment underneath the button, so you have to scroll up to click it to expand.
I’m just saying it isn’t always directly in the user’s face when they interact with a post and expecting everyone to double check the rules every comment is a bit silly of an expectation.
I guess you haven’t ever used lemmy on a phone or in a narrow window on PC where it is hidden until you click a button to show the sidebar?
I’m grown up enough to just use the Subscribed feed, so I don’t even get posts not targeted at me, and I also am fully able to look up the rules from mobile devices. If that’s such a hassle for you, you’re unsuited for federated platforms where you have to accept to encounter a plethora of rules and posts not targeted at you.
Do you mean this setting that I have set 99% of the time and I only temporarily switch to All once every couple of weeks to see if any new communities catch my interest?
That setting, right there? Guess I’m an adult except when I’m not!
I’m grown up enough to just use the Subscribed feed
L. O. L.
If you have to tell people you’re a grown up because you do something a specific way, or imply that you’d be a child to think or act differently than you do: you’re not a grown up at all, you’re a child in an oversized skin suit.
Conflicted.
On one hand, their playground, their rules.
On other, if you don’t want to interact with half of community, why not just, dunno…limit visibility? Make it actual safe space?
I am good with anything and do respect their choice, just it’s fun to think about.
I think for those types of communities having it be open but restricting commenting to flaired users that are verified makes way more sense. I’m not sure if that’s possible on Lemmy, but it’s an easy way to have the best of both worlds.
Just make a discord at that point lmao
It’s not on the community to make it harder for their target audience to find them. It’s on people who scroll the All feed to leave posts alone that don’t concern them.
I don’t see a problem with being public and having limiting rules - it’s perfectly fine for women or minority groups to have their own spaces - but never before have I seen such an odd approach to moderating. I too tumbled on one of their threads from ALL and it felt like at least third of the comments there was responded with, paraphrasing, “please never post again”. If every discussion reaching ALL gets like that, I’d imagine it would be easier to figure out some other solution, since it takes such insane amount of effort to go through so many comments and probably profiles and posting history to know who to reply that to, from moderating perspective. Or are they just saying that to everyone? Or everyone not subbed?? I doubt that many people getting answered with “please never post again” would want to join even if they did qualify…
It’s just… I don’t understand the logistics of all that
If the post is in all it’s in the public forum You don’t get to have your safe space in the public forum. If you say something in public then be prepared. If you want to reach the public because of higher traffic does not mean you can tell people not to respond. I know that people will argue that it’s not fair but it gives off sealioning, im not touching you vibes.
The rules are not displayed in the All feed. Some specific communities are still welcoming of people who are not the topic being discussed.
When you click a post, the rules might be hidden or at the bottom of the page. Do you take the effort to read all of the rules before posting in every community on the All feed?
Do you take the time before voting, since some communities have banned down voting?
It’s literally the topmost rule of the sidebar. If your client doesn’t display the sidebar properly, that’s on you and your choice of client. Default lemmy-ui displays it just fine.
I guess you haven’t ever used lemmy on a phone or in a narrow window on PC where it is hidden until you click a button to show the sidebar?
I squished it to about a third of my desktop to make it switch from side to button. It is a button on mobile for me both in portrait and landscape. ![screenshot of the sidebar button(https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/81e5396f-33c8-410b-a43e-b47134f9eefe.png)
Plus if you click on the comments indicator it scrolls down to the top comment underneath the button, so you have to scroll up to click it to expand.
I’m just saying it isn’t always directly in the user’s face when they interact with a post and expecting everyone to double check the rules every comment is a bit silly of an expectation.
I’m grown up enough to just use the Subscribed feed, so I don’t even get posts not targeted at me, and I also am fully able to look up the rules from mobile devices. If that’s such a hassle for you, you’re unsuited for federated platforms where you have to accept to encounter a plethora of rules and posts not targeted at you.
Do you mean this setting that I have set 99% of the time and I only temporarily switch to All once every couple of weeks to see if any new communities catch my interest?
That setting, right there? Guess I’m an adult except when I’m not!
TIL: I’m not a grown up because I use the all feed instead of subscribing to specific communities.
Damn that’s tough.
L. O. L.
If you have to tell people you’re a grown up because you do something a specific way, or imply that you’d be a child to think or act differently than you do: you’re not a grown up at all, you’re a child in an oversized skin suit.