Why not? They can only go up in value!

To paraphrase the great Malcolm Tucker, it’s like watching a clown running across a minefield.

If you click the article link, then use a process called “reading”, you would see:

The company has already launched similar services abroad in Egypt, Nigeria, and India. Now it’s bringing the concept to the United States.

Most human training is done through the guidance of another

Let’s take a step back and not talk about training at all, but about spontaneous learning. A baby learns about the world around it by experiencing things with its senses. They learn a language, for example, simply by hearing it and making connections - getting corrected when they’re wrong, yes, but they are not trained in language until they’ve already learned to speak it. And once they are taught how to read, they can then explore the world through signs, books, the internet, etc. in a way that is often self-directed. More than that, humans are learning at every moment as they interact with the world around them and with the written word.

An LLM is a static model created through exposure to lots and lots of text. It is trained and then used. To add to the model requires an offline training process, which produces a new version of the model that can then be interacted with.

you can in fact teach it something and it will maintain it during the session

It’s still not learning anything. LLMs have what’s known as a context window that is used to augment the model for a given session. It’s still just text that is used as part of the response process.

They don’t think or understand in any way, full stop.

I just gave you an example where this appears to be untrue. There is something that looks like understanding going on.

You seem to have ignored the preceding sentence: “LLMs are sophisticated word generators.” This is the crux of the matter. They simply do not think, much less understand. They are simply taking the text of your prompts (and the text from the context window) and generating more text that is likely to be relevant. Sentences are generated word-by-word using complex math (heavy on linear algebra and probability) where the generation of each new word takes into account everything that came before it, including the previous words in the sentence it’s a part of. There is no thinking or understanding whatsoever.

This is why Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works said in the original post to this thread, “They hallucinate all answers. Some of those answers will happen to be right.” LLMs have no way of knowing if any of the text they generate is accurate for the simple fact that they don’t know anything at all. They have no capacity for knowledge, understanding, thought, or reasoning. Their models are simply complex networks of words that are able to generate more words, usually in a way that is useful to us. But often, as the hallucination problem shows, in ways that are completely useless and even harmful.

the argument that they can’t learn doesn’t make sense because models have definitely become better.

They have to be either trained with new data or their internal structure has to be improved. It’s an offline process, meaning they don’t learn through chat sessions we have with them (if you open a new session it will have forgotten what you told it in a previous session), and they can’t learn through any kind of self-directed research process like a human can.

all of your shortcomings you’ve listed humans are guilty of too.

LLMs are sophisticated word generators. They don’t think or understand in any way, full stop. This is really important to understand about them.

It’s no surprise that “free” search funded through advertising led to this. The economic incentives were always going to lead us to the pay-to-win enshittification that we see today.

Paid search might look better initially, but a for-profit model will eventually lead to the same results. It might manifest differently, maybe through backroom deals they never talk about, but you’d better believe there will always be more profit to be made through such deals than through subscription fees.

You’re 40, you’re a child in both in age and mentality.

I’m so far left that young leftists think I’m too extreme

Sure you are, champ.

they call be right wing for disagreeing with every tiny thing they say

You’re so close to a moment of self-awareness, and yet so far.

Yes, and if a duplicate does arrive (as appears to be happening), the current code doesn’t do anything about the corresponding database error, resulting in a scary multi-line warning for something that could be safely ignored. A new Lemmy administrator (like me) has no way of knowing this is at best an info-level event, or even just a debug-level event since it has no real effect on anything.

Cool, I’ve been meaning to check out ngrok sometime. Looks really useful.

I don’t think there’s a way to filter out the problem since it appears to be an automatic warning due to an uncaught error. I have some ideas on a code fix now, and may submit a PR for it in the near future.

I’ve been digging in the source code, and if it’s just a duplicate record in the database the fix could be as simple as adding a couple of lines of code here to silently ignore a duplication error: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/blob/main/crates/apub/src/lib.rs#L211

Edit: on second thought, it might be better to deal with it higher up the call stack here: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/blob/main/crates/apub/src/activities/community/announce.rs#L163

It’s definitely happening when I’m getting updates from lemmy.world, and while I don’t know how to get at the HTTP details you’re showing in your video, I do see a lot of 400’s in the nginx log from Docker:

proxy-1  | 135.181.143.221 - - [13/May/2024:23:03:43 +0000] "POST /inbox HTTP/1.1" 200 0 "-" "Lemmy/0.19.3; +https://lemmy.world"
proxy-1  | 135.181.143.221 - - [13/May/2024:23:03:43 +0000] "POST /inbox HTTP/1.1" 400 62 "-" "Lemmy/0.19.3; +https://lemmy.world"
proxy-1  | 135.181.143.221 - - [13/May/2024:23:03:43 +0000] "POST /inbox HTTP/1.1" 400 62 "-" "Lemmy/0.19.3; +https://lemmy.world"
proxy-1  | 135.181.143.221 - - [13/May/2024:23:03:43 +0000] "POST /inbox HTTP/1.1" 200 0 "-" "Lemmy/0.19.3; +https://lemmy.world"
proxy-1  | 135.181.143.221 - - [13/May/2024:23:03:43 +0000] "POST /inbox HTTP/1.1" 400 62 "-" "Lemmy/0.19.3; +https://lemmy.world"
proxy-1  | 135.181.143.221 - - [13/May/2024:23:03:43 +0000] "POST /inbox HTTP/1.1" 200 0 "-" "Lemmy/0.19.3; +https://lemmy.world"
proxy-1  | 135.181.143.221 - - [13/May/2024:23:03:43 +0000] "POST /inbox HTTP/1.1" 200 0 "-" "Lemmy/0.19.3; +https://lemmy.world"
proxy-1  | 135.181.143.221 - - [13/May/2024:23:03:43 +0000] "POST /inbox HTTP/1.1" 400 62 "-" "Lemmy/0.19.3; +https://lemmy.world"

He is, in fact, saying “nuke Gaza”, just in a way that allows him to deny it.

Cool, thanks, I’ll either wait for a new release or take a stab at building/deploying myself at some point.

Unpaywalled link: https://archive.is/6RhUG

Wait until the New York Times finds out that the New York Times is one of the biggest propagators of sinophobia.

Also this bit is interesting:

The amygdala is a pair of neural clusters near the base of the brain that assesses danger and can help prompt a fight-or-flight response. A prolonged stress response may contribute to anxiety, which can cause people to perceive danger where there is none and obsess about worst-case scenarios.

At least one study has shown that conservatives tend to have a larger right amygdala: Political Orientations Are Correlated with Brain Structure in Young Adults

We found that greater liberalism was associated with increased gray matter volume in the anterior cingulate cortex, whereas greater conservatism was associated with increased volume of the right amygdala.