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PHP is hardly doomed. It’s still getting new releases (last one being 19 days ago) and it’s still relatively popular for web development, which means it’s going to be support for quite a while. The rest what you’ve said about PHP is more or less just your opinion. As for Rust, Rust is a good language but Rust isn’t very popular at this moment and it’s even less popular when it comes to web development because most of the things that make Rust great are things that are simply not that important for web development. Most web development languages are performant enough, rust being even more performant isn’t going to be noticed. And because social media sites aren’t exactly security-critical Rust being memory safe won’t play a big role. The only clear benefit Rust has over PHP is being strongly typed.

But there’s a very obvious benefit to PHP. You simply develop faster. If you had 2 identical web projects, one in PHP and one in Rust, and you were equally skilled in both languages you’d finish the PHP project faster because PHP is literally designed for web development. Speed is a much bigger factor when developing a Reddit style content aggregator site.

As for the second point. You have an issue with fragmentation, but your solution to Lemmy devs refusing to cooperate is fragmentation? People forking Lemmy will also lead to fragmentation. Fragmentation is bad, but eventually people will gravitate towards one solution and fragmentation gets solved. It there’s very little different between the fragmentation happening between Lemmy forks or Lemmy and Mbin. IMO fragmentation is inevitable and I would rather see it happen right now rather than sit through N different Lemmy dramas until everyone gets so fed up with Lemmy devs that Lemmy gets forked and the fork becomes more popular than Lemmy.

We want FOSS federated social media and people have jumped ship to Lemmy because it was the most developed at that point. But I will keep reminding people that Lemmy isn’t the only option we have. I jumped from Lemmy to Mbin because I can no longer tolerate how Lemmy devs act and IMO anyone feeling the same way should also jump ship. Lemmy devs don’t own the activitypub and Mbin can federate with Lemmy communities. You can continue using the fediverse as you’ve been using it on Lemmy, until hopefully in the future communities also start migrating to Mbin (and all the tankies can stay in Lemmy). If you don’t like the state of Lemmy, be the change you want to see.

Also worth pointing out that this kind of drama won’t happen with Mbin because the project is community maintained not individually maintained.

You literally have no idea what you’re talking about, do you. Lemmy is not necessary for all instances and I’m on one of those instances that has nothing to do with Lemmy. I could’ve also signed up with Piefed if I wanted to but I feel more comfortable on Mbin. So I am in fact not freeloading. And the idea that anyone not willing to support the development is “freeloading” is completely preposterous. I guess the vast majority of FOSS users are freeloaders then.

And I have no idea why you keep bringing up Reddit, it’s like you have no clue about the world outside of Reddit and Lemmy.

People are free to use their salaries as they wish

And people don’t want to use their salary to support a tankie instance. Funny how that works, right?

The cost of the test instance that lemmy.ml is is negligible in comparison.

Except it’s not a test instance because it’s primarily being used as a propaganda outlet. If the purpose of that instance was to support the development of Lemmy the devs should have no problem cleaning up the instance because the political agenda of that instance clearly works against the development of Lemmy. But Nutomic has publicly said he would much rather keep the instance as is rather than make lemmy.ml into an instance that actually supports the development of Lemmy.

You just moving the goalposts.

Can’t even notice that you’re talking to someone else? Also my point was quite literally explaining how it’s not moving the goal post because what the devs have said doesn’t actually change anything. If you think it does I’m still waiting for that 50€.

But go back to reddit then? Spez is no horrible communist. Must be great for you? Why are you here freeloading?

Fuck reddit and Fuck Spez. And by the way I’m not freeloading, I’m on Mbin specifically because I’m fed up with the main Lemmy devs. I have no issue donating to Lemmy, as long as someone normal takes over the project.

If you donate me 50€ I’ll donate 100€ to them. Would you do that? I doubt it because you couldn’t verify if I actually held up my end and you’re not going to just trust someone.

But somehow you’re going to make an exception in this case and trust that they’re going to keep the finances separate? You really think they would let lemmy.ml die if the donation stream covering the costs of lemmy.ml would run dry? If you do you might as well send me that 50€ because they’re hellbent on keeping their control over lemmy.ml and instance as the propaganda outlet that it is. They will 100% use that money on lemmy.ml if they can no longer keep up appearances of having separate finances.