It really is both breathtakingly stupid and alarmingly revealing all at the same time.
It really is both breathtakingly stupid and alarmingly revealing all at the same time.
I never said we invaded for that reason… I said that Iraq had produced WMDs in the past. Which was a well known fact. They also had pursued a nuclear weapons program in the past as well. This is why the falsified intelligence that lead to the 2003 invasion wasn’t farfetched… It’s not as simple as saying well it was a falsified report that led us to invade. It was bad tradecraft to assume that one Iraqi insiders report was all that was leveraged with no confirming Intel reporting of any kind from secondary sources. There was certainly also a level of political expediency that is also impossible to ignore if you are an honest person. Lots of politicians making the decision did seem to be a lot richer after that decision than before it…
But it’s nothing more than just really bad tradecraft on behalf of the Intel community. The report itself simply wasn’t farfetched enough to be dismissed as a lie.
And if you reread my original reply just a little more closely, I already said that while the poster was clearly trying to say that we entered Iraq for stupid reasons… He didn’t say that… He was implying Iraq didn’t have WMDs. Which is just purely false. They have some of the most deadly chemical weapons ever produced.
I don’t really care what you could or couldn’t find because I’m not giving you a report of something I read. I spent more than a year living in the Salah Ad Din province of Iraq. Im giving you facts as a first hand expert on this subject, you can chose to educate yourself or ignore me… It makes no difference to me either way.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28222879
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/07/11/isis-chemical-biological-weapons/
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/world/middleeast/isis-chemical-weapons-syria-iraq-mosul.html
https://www.chds.us/ed/resources/uploads/2010/05/2017_UAPI_Summit_Almemar_ISIS.pdf
https://public.websites.umich.edu/~graceyor/govdocs/pdf/duelfer3_bb.pdf
I’m sure you are probably trying to be critical about the weak intelligence that took us into Iraq in 2003… But you have just dove face first into the stupid end of the pool here bud.
It’s a very well documented fact that Iraq produced shit tons of WMD… The vast majority of it being stored still at the Muthanna Chemical Complex (MCC) which was relatively recently seized by ISIS a few years back… Many of which died after becoming exposed to the various chemical weapons that are still there, improperly stored, and leaking all over the environment…
It’s never been false that Iraq had WMDs… What was false was that they had begun producing them again. It wasn’t as farfetched as you are trying to make it seem.
It’s like you guys are just learning that war is terrible…
People die in wars. Combatants, non-combatants, men, women, children, bystanders, supporters, journalists, doctors, criminals, religious people, atheists.
We don’t want war… It’s bad.
So if you don’t want war, you should conduct massive brutal attacks on civilian populations… Because that’s how you get war.
HAMAS did this… They hold their own women and children at gun point inside of buildings they know Israel is about to strike to maximize the propaganda value out of the strike. The Arab nations refuse to allow Palestinian refugees to enter their countries in order to get them out of the conflict areas. Iran has purposefully financed HAMAS in order to allow it to disrupt the Palestinian Government and prevent any real opportunities for real sustainable peace. HAMAS build hospitals and schools with Iranian money… not to provide for the Palestinian people but to ensure they can wrap themselves in human body armor as they build caches and facilitation networks which is 100% in violation of international law and is not just criminal but utterly despicable.
Meanwhile these groups and countries have never been shy at announcing that their only stated goal is the genocidal ethnic cleansing of Israelis and the destruction of the state of Israel.
Who would have thought that all those years ago when Jordan and Egypt decided to take military action against a displaced refugee encampment all of those years ago that we would be at this point.
Or when they did it the second time…
Or the third time…
It’s unreal that Egypt and Jordan just abandoned their own people in Israel and refuse to allow them to return to the nations they were originally citizens.
It’s like you guys are just learning that war is terrible…
People die in wars. Combatants, non-combatants, men, women, children, bystanders, supporters, journalists, doctors, criminals, religious people, atheists.
We don’t want war… It’s bad.
So if you don’t want war, you should conduct massive brutal attacks on civilian populations… Because that’s how you get war.
HAMAS did this… They hold their own women and children at gun point inside of buildings they know Israel is about to strike to maximize the propaganda value out of the strike. The Arab nations refuse to allow Palestinian refugees to enter their countries in order to get them out of the conflict areas. Iran has purposefully financed HAMAS in order to allow it to disrupt the Palestinian Government and prevent any real opportunities for real sustainable peace. HAMAS build hospitals and schools with Iranian money… not to provide for the Palestinian people but to ensure they can wrap themselves in human body armor as they build caches and facilitation networks which is 100% in violation of international law and is not just criminal but utterly despicable.
Meanwhile these groups and countries have never been shy at announcing that their only stated goal is the genocidal ethnic cleansing of Israelis and the destruction of the state of Israel.
Who would have thought that all those years ago when Jordan and Egypt decided to take military action against a displaced refugee encampment all of those years ago that we would be at this point.
Or when they did it the second time…
Or the third time…
It’s unreal that Egypt and Jordan just abandoned their own people in Israel and refuse to allow them to return to the nations they were originally citizens.
If you think Israel is randomly bombing buildings you haven’t been paying attention.
What exactly is your point then? You think that HAMAS should be allowed to get away with their crimes because by fighting them it would create a second wave?
I’m sorry but not good enough. HAMAS teaches Palestinian children that their greatest achievements in life is to sacrifice themselves in the great jihad. They wrap children in suicide vests and march them around on TV.
Destroying HAMAS is protecting Palestinians. Collateral loss of life is a tragic cost of war… But the mission here is clear… destroy HAMAS, do not let them flee to their rat holes. HAMAS will always attempt to maximize civilian casualties. When will they release the hostages they are holding? These aren’t prisoners of war… They are civilians, non combatants… Why don’t we just start with HAMAS releases the innocent people they have taken hostage?
How did ISIS seize it in 2014 if it was all destroyed?
And why are people still dying when they walk anywhere near it?
True it’s not in production but no one is destroying the chemical weapons stored there, frankly it’s because they are so incredibly dangerous and in poor condition that they cannot be safely handled. The weapons are still there though, all of the various nerve and blister agents and all of their precursory materials.
It’s bizarre you are so smart but don’t really know what you are talking about. I know it’s incredibly difficult to find truth in our media right now (and frankly it doesn’t even matter what political persuasion you subscribe to… They are all full of shit). But still you are buying the narrative hard.
But you should at least take account of first hand knowledge. I was boots on ground in Iraq through the most violent and dangerous times. No we shouldn’t have been there, but it’s not like the lies about WMDs were farfetched… Saddam had stockpiles of chemical weapons and had already produced proven warheads to deliver chemical weapons on various platforms including their infamous SCUD platform.
That’s fine… And they will be allowed to exist until they murder, rape, behead children, kidnap hostages, and torture people.
Then they have to be eradicated as well…
No apologies for HAMAS.
Well actually it’s HAMAS… And you should research the al muthanna chemical weapons facility.
Nobody wants Palestinians to die. They are in an impossible situation. But HAMAS has to be destroyed.
I don’t understand what you are missing here.
This is correct… If there are any Palestinians left after this they will all collectively be safer once HAMAS is eradicated.
And despite all of this, the Palestinians are still safer in Israel than they would be in Jordan or Egypt who would have every man, woman, and child seeking refuge shot at the borders.
How are you going to just bring facts to this shit fest of propaganda driven bias confirmation? Sure HAMAS’s stated goal is the destruction and genocide of Israel and just committed incredible atrocities… That ain’t going to stop these terrorism apologists from drinking the Kool aid before they even get all of into the cup.
Day to day, yes… Decade to decade, very unlikely.
It would make for a very interesting biometric lock mechanism though…
“… Hold on boys, just need to unlock my phone real quick…”
I as well use a Anker powerconf camera and it’s fantastic… But you will need a windows machine if you want to modify firmware settings on it as their control app runs in windows. It does seem that once you modify those settings they are persistent within the hardware itself though and once you move it back to the Linux machine it should all be preserved.
Of course it’s possible someone has already closed that gap out already or maybe the app runs in wine.