how does one view these people as anything other than cruel, profoundly fucking stupid hypocrites?

Unfortunately, by also viewing them as victims. Humanity was not ready for the internet or multi-billion dollar media conglomerates, horizontally integrating across almost all sources of information in an endless stream of emotionally manipulative and intellectually degrading “content”.

Many of these people are profoundly fucking stupid hypocrites, but they weren’t born that way, they were made. Either as byproducts of greed seeking “engagement” and attention, and/or direct products of a deliberate decades-long effort to push society to the tipping point that it is facing right now.

A handful of powerful individuals and faceless corporations have manufactured the consent of the masses by dismantling and weaponizing education and communication.

They are responsible for taking fringe, outdated elements of society - people that are usually ignored, shunned, or left behind in times of progress - and instead gave them a platform, legitimacy, power, and a sense of community.

People like this were always a part of humanity, but it isn’t natural for there to be so fucking many of them all at once, all in one place. It usually requires incredible societal upheaval, like the aftermath of a “war to end all wars”.

But in the modern day? All it took was a steady influx of fear and hatred, experimentally perfected over the lifetime of radio, TV, and finally the internet.

All delivered by Murdoch, Koch, Zuck et al through the mouthpieces of complicit bastards like Limbaugh, Hannity, and Tate.

Always remember who the real problems are.

“Quibbling over precise definition of pedophilia sign of a healthy adult”

Some of the lowest public servants could be opposing things below the radar. Malicious compliance, intentional incompetence, etc. There’s a reason that (outdated) sabotage handbook keeps going around, and there’s certainly a lot of leaks and obvious fuckups in this government that may or may not be accidental. See: the DOJ court filing with an internal memo saying “lol this case is doomed”

But all of the pilots flying the planes? The agents rounding up innocents without due process? The judges and prosecutors and spokespeople and soldiers following unconstitutional orders? Absolutely fucked.

You still had to be not poor to take advantage of all that.

Yeah, randomly shitting on individuals of older generations is just not productive.

Yes, the society as a whole benefitted from better economic conditions, borrowed from tomorrow, and pulled the ladders up behind them… but we don’t know that user. Plenty of people in “the good times” did not have it good.

For all they know, that particular GenX or Boomer was destitute and desperate.

For all they know, that particular elder was in the protests and on the picket lines and fighting this shit every step of the way.

We need solidarity. Every generation, every age, everyone and anyone who is willing. Don’t blame the individuals for the groups.

It’s a great movie, but the eugenics theme is bullshit. The causes of modern decline have nothing to do with the half-baked idea that idiots will overrun the world through breeding.

Idiots aren’t born in increasing waves, they’re made by chronically underfunding education and flooding the world with propaganda and manipulative social media algorithms.

I feel that the memery at TenForward have a lot of potential to add here. I don’t know enough about their inspiration material to understand why, but from what I can tell they’ve certainly got a lot of beans. More beans than these young’uns could ever hold in their tiny little kling-ons.

Janeway would lair them up dozens, maybe even hundreds of times, and they wouldn’t even know they were dangling the whole time.

For all I know these are fighting words to them. If so, I will try to die with my honor.

I’m cool with it for streams, but it got really confusing because I’ve also heard slightly older young’uns refer to ChatGPT as “Chat”

So, like, “Idk I heard it from Chat” can either be a horrifying revelation that they listen to and trust random twitch users, or a horrifying revelation that they listen to and trust inchoate AI tech.

I mean at least this is one of the situations where at its base a tariff makes sense in an industry protectionist way

Except for the fact that - under no circumstances - do you need tariffs to protect a wildly successful industry. That makes no sense because there’s nothing to protect against. It can literally only do harm.

It makes your personal timeline worse, unfortunately. I know it’s hard to believe, but sobriety can make life significantly more tolerable. The problems are still very much there, but most of the underlying anxiety is caused by the alcohol, not treated by it.

It’s like cigarettes - it only feels so good because first it made you feel worse. It’s not even just withdrawal, it’s craving. When you believe you have a “make everything better” button, it is really hard not to push it.

I… uh… what? This still isn’t how words work.

I repeat:

what exactly are they coping with?

Who is coping here? With what? It’s… an athiest coping with a lack of faith? A jewish person coping with flaws in their religious law?

There is no one on the face of the earth that can reconcile passages from religious texts such as these.

Uh… way to just miss the point of the entire religion.

All of Judaism - down to their goddamn rite of manhood - is built upon literacy. Reading and interpreting the will of God. Scholarly analysis of their own texts - reconciling the word with the world - is literally the foundation of their entire religion.

Lol okay? I wasn’t arguing in favor of the dairy industry at all. I was providing historical context - essentially, I’m warning that we shouldn’t let AI go the way of the dairy industry. That is, we shouldn’t allow it to grow so massive that it starts having similar effects on the climate.

That being said,

Perhaps there have been times of famine where it kept people alive, but today and throughout most of human history, it’s simply killing people

This is just false. Most of human history was famine, compared to the modern day. Food lasted a couple days, at most. Dairy and grain were massive contributors to human flourishing.

It might not be healthy compared to other modern alternatives, but I invite you to find historical alternatives that were at all competitive. People were more likely to own a cow in the middle ages than they were to own land.

I don’t think this word means what you think it means… what is “copium” about discussing possible origins of dogma?

OP is literally saying “this widespread institutionally-reinforced religious practice/dietary restriction could all be due to a mistranslation”, what exactly are they coping with?

For the record, dairy production and consumption has been around for almost all of human civilization. It had time to really embed itself in society, and it served a very real, practical purpose. It kept people alive.

The AI hype has only being going for like a decade and shows no signs of slowing down. Those numbere are literally rookie numbers.

Dishwashing is a significant underestimate here, and don’t forget hand-washing (before/after bathroom, food, cleaning…).

Plus you missed outdoor and gardening, which would help explain why the Land of the Free Lawns uses more than anybody else.

What about adding a lane?

We’ve already added a lane.

Yes, but what about a second lane?

I don’t think he’s ever tried adding a second lane, Pippin.

Humans: Literally only exist because they banded together in larger communities than other contemporary hominids. One of the earliest indicators of civilization is caring for the injured and sick. The key characteristic of successful societies is how well they keep each other alive.

Some fuckhead who thinks he understands evolution: “We should let the financially weak die”

Fantastic! Who knows, maybe the guy Ea-Nasir pissed off was a vampire.

You know, a lot of people say that about me, but if anything I have very thin skin. Other vampires say that I have thick skin because I can go out in daylight and so it’s okay for them to joke about me because my skin is so thick, but my skin isn’t thick at all. You can’t just put a vampire in a thick suit of skin and the sun won’t burn him, that’s not how skin works I don’t think. I think light goes through skin, that’s why we can still see some light when we close our eyes. Have you ever done that? Have you ever closed your eyes, but you could still kind of see light through your eye lids? I like to do it sometimes. I close my eyes and pretend the lightbulb in my room is the sun shining on all of us. Me and all of my vampire friends. So warm. Do you want to try that? Do you want to close your eyes with me? I can see the light right through my eyelids, so that must mean that the skin on my eyelids is actually pretty thin, right? Can you see how thin my eyelids are?

To be fair, the number of times entire villages, towns, cities, and even kingdoms were completely wiped off the map… I could see a vampire being forced to start over. A lot.

They can expect vampire hunters in their castle, but nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.

There’s so much randomized “it’s not enough” sentiment on lemmy. We all need to focus the hell up, because responding to every single little thing with “how dare they not do more” is so counterproductive. Nobody will ever do anything.

I’m not even saying this action is progress - but shitting on it isn’t progress either.

That user just suggested that the congressmen should break into an empty room, as if that would so something.

And even if congress was in session… these people are the people that are supposed to sit in congress. They literally belong there. What, exactly, would that accomplish?