Well I don’t really have any reason to doubt the quality of the rail system. It’s one thing to go over-budget on transit (which they apparently did); it’s quite another to go over-budget and build the whole system to a poor standard where it won’t even last.
when you’re used to propaganda that says china is awful, seeing people say “china is pretty okay actually” looks like glorification.
No one is saying china is amazing, they’re saying china is not actively stabbing themselves in the stomach. China is doing the blitheringly obvious things a country like that should be doing, things that most other countries can’t be arsed to do because the people in power benefit from the status quo of things being shit.
They’re not perfect, things go over budget and things get built shittily by bad companies, just like what happens in every other country on earth.
The Chinese government has definitely run ahead of the pack on domestic investment. But you could play the same game with Spain or Japan or Turkiye. The numbers simply would not have been as impressive.
Their buildings are collapsing.
This is a meme from 2008. You won’t find any more crumbling buildings in China than you’d find in the UK or Korea.
And the Chinese peope themselves. They suffer.
They’ll never know the joys of bumper to bumper traffic
Explain the sinking just finished metro. The ghost towns. The buildings collapsing. The bridges decaying because of concrete rot.
There are so many current projects going bad because of the use of bad materials and dodgy practices.
Skipping a geo research before building etc.
The Chinese are surpressed by the CCP. More than 90% of the drinking water is not fit for consumption. Aside from the AI cleaned up videos and pictures, there isn’t much of a clear sky with the smog.
And where are the birds?
… Also have you seen China. They too have traffic jams.
No country is a wonderland.
And if someone is really really really trying to convince me they are that magnificent, and better than everyone else.
I. Do. Not. Trust. Them.
Actions say more than words. And the actions have spoken.
And now wait for five years and see if the Chinese one is still there.
It’s been 16 years and counting.
This one is from 2024 Let that sink in Home not alone, just unfinished
One swallow does not make it summer. Shall we continue this path to see which one runs out first of resources?
Sorry, what do developers abandoning large housing projects have to do with longevity of train infrastructure?
It seems pretty improbable to me that this infrastructure will be replaced in China in just five years.
Didn’t mean replaced. I meant collapse. Rotted away. Tofu dreg.
Well I don’t really have any reason to doubt the quality of the rail system. It’s one thing to go over-budget on transit (which they apparently did); it’s quite another to go over-budget and build the whole system to a poor standard where it won’t even last.
I hope that you are right but I doubt it.
Americans: “Nice infrastructure. Would be a shame if we had to come over there and liberate it.”
I am as American as Pancetta. It is just the glorification of China that is rubbing me the wrong way.
Their buildings are collapsing. Yes, it is built fast, cheap and looks nice. And then it fails.
And the Chinese peope themselves. They suffer.
when you’re used to propaganda that says china is awful, seeing people say “china is pretty okay actually” looks like glorification.
No one is saying china is amazing, they’re saying china is not actively stabbing themselves in the stomach. China is doing the blitheringly obvious things a country like that should be doing, things that most other countries can’t be arsed to do because the people in power benefit from the status quo of things being shit.
They’re not perfect, things go over budget and things get built shittily by bad companies, just like what happens in every other country on earth.
The Chinese government has definitely run ahead of the pack on domestic investment. But you could play the same game with Spain or Japan or Turkiye. The numbers simply would not have been as impressive.
This is a meme from 2008. You won’t find any more crumbling buildings in China than you’d find in the UK or Korea.
They’ll never know the joys of bumper to bumper traffic
Explain the sinking just finished metro. The ghost towns. The buildings collapsing. The bridges decaying because of concrete rot. There are so many current projects going bad because of the use of bad materials and dodgy practices. Skipping a geo research before building etc.
The Chinese are surpressed by the CCP. More than 90% of the drinking water is not fit for consumption. Aside from the AI cleaned up videos and pictures, there isn’t much of a clear sky with the smog.
And where are the birds?
… Also have you seen China. They too have traffic jams.
No country is a wonderland. And if someone is really really really trying to convince me they are that magnificent, and better than everyone else. I. Do. Not. Trust. Them.
Actions say more than words. And the actions have spoken.
Source: it came to me in a dream.
Source. Straight out of mainland China. Not all does get stopped by the Firewall.
So still no source
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