I thought we should bring some attention to this.

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    Yeah and those 28% they “pay” they probably get back from the irs with some creative number swapping… fuck off they dont pay shit. Meanwhile i have to pay for my electricity twice, one to use it and second time because i also produce it because i have solar panels and dont use it al straight away. fuck off please.

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      The Dutch equivalent to the IRS, but yes, probably… And that’s for a “progressive” country like the Netherlands. For other places this income and tax disparity is potentially* even higher.

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          belasting

          Ha that sounds like “burdening” in Danish. Funny your IRS is called that.
          Here it’s called SKAT which is the same word we use for “darling”, also a bit ironic IMO.

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          Fair enough haha, saw someone already struggle with Wageningen B-Series propellers recently. Belastingdienst is a magnitude worse to read/pronounce…

          I also meant relatively progressive, as you’ll agree it’s still better than many other places we consider 1st world.

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            Well to be fair the g’s in there are quit hard for someone not dutch. Should try Scheveningen that one is always fun. Or ‘s-Hertogenbosch

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      Power companies originally had to pay you for adding excess power to the grid in the U.S., but states keep passing laws that say they don’t have to. I guess it could be worse.

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        Short version sort of the same. The surplus they had to pay you an amount but now you pay for wat you deliver them and they cannsell that to others so they make 2x the money, from me who supplies it and the person that uses it.

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      Selling surplus production from solar panels have been pretty worthless the past month here too. But that doesn’t change that the production I use myself, is very profitable because the transport and taxes are very expensive. The electricity itself is dirt cheap currently, actually most days around zero during daytime. I bet it’s similar your place. (I’m in Denmark)

      I don’t quite understand why you feel cheated, when in fact you are also doing some tax evasion of sorts having solar panels. Are you really whining you can’t get above market price for the electricity you sell?

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        Well i (didnt downvote btw) yes we pay tax on both. That is when we use power when there is no sun i have to buy it from the power company with jot just 1 but several taxes. The power i produce (i have many solarpanels and cannot use all of it when its produced) i send that back which costs money and yes also taxed. I could break down the tax system for “normal” ppl but i would just give you nightmares. I also have seen a construction a friend (accountant) of mine uses for a rich client, but thise things are so fucking complicated i just trust him when he says they pay almost nothing (1 or 2%)