• ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
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    24 days ago

    It’s actually super useful for old people, who sometimes like to “accidentally log off” and stuff.

    • Q The Misanthrope @startrek.website
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      24 days ago

      Or Microsoft who randomly needs to verify someone’s identity before they can log into.tgeir computer but the user doesn’t have a smart phone. So they need to call someone trusted to have them log into their email from a different computer just to get the code so the user can log into their computer.

      But that also means they didn’t have access to any saved passwords so a notebook helps.

      I really should put Linux on her machine but then I have to show her how to do that too. It’s a lose-lose so I keep it the same.

      I miss local accounts.

      • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ@lemmy.world
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        24 days ago

        You can still use local accounts with Windows 11. It’s just a bit fiddley. If you use Rufus to make your boot usb, there’s a bunch of deshitification options you can do.

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    25 days ago

    I should get this for my dad, he recently got a new computer at best buy and the geek squad told him his files were all in the cloud and sent him home. Guess who got a call the next day because “all my passwords are in a word document in some fucking cloud”. Yeah that was a fun day spent setting up his computer while listening to his rant about the geek squad and “the fucking cloud”… thanks geek squad…

    • HoopyFrood@lemmy.zip
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      25 days ago

      As a software engineer who values humanity has done a good bit of work with “the cloud”, i think your dad has the right set of feelings towards the cloud. That fucking cloud can go get bent

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        24 days ago

        Oh I agree but it would be nice if he’d have listened to me years ago and started using a password manager at least. I know he’ll never go full self hosting, but come on at least use Bitwarden!

    • zyberteq @lemmy.world
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      24 days ago

      For a lot of people at 60+, writing things down is easier and safer. It will also help anyone that would need to troubleshoot or in the event of death in a very simple way.

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      25 days ago

      * for the tech inclined

      Managing sync between mobile and desktop is a bit more complicated than average consumers have the patience for (it’s really not very complicated, average consumers are just impatient)

    • No1@aussie.zone
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      25 days ago

      My password logbook caught on fire, and half my passwords were burnt. I lost the other half when I threw a bucket of water on it to put the fire out. 😟

      I can’t order food. I can’t buy things. I can’t get money.

      0/5. Send help.

  • aceshigh@lemmy.world
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    25 days ago

    That’s exactly what I use. Chances of my house getting robbed is small. Chances of yet another data breach is very high - this year my data was breached at least 2ce that I remember.

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    26 days ago

    This isn’t even weird.

    I think most security experts would recommend that you have your most important passwords written down somewhere, and then hopefully locked up in some safe or deposit box somewhere. You don’t need to buy an entire book for it, but some people like to spend money.

    If this is for your less important passwords, then for the most part, writing them down is actually better. You won’t be as tempted to reuse your banking password for your social media. And some people like writing things down. A password manager is a better solution, but lots of people aren’t as good with technology and if they even let the browser remember it, they won’t know how to retrieve it later if they want to use a different computer, for example.

    • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
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      26 days ago

      I have a letter in my safe in the event of my death that contains all my passwords and accounts. I have also slipped in a dead man switch that she’s unaware of that will wipe out my “collection of science”.

    • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
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      26 days ago

      My password-manager is a script that gpg-decrypts to XDG_RUNTIME_DIR and then opens it in editor, encrypts back on changes. Is that bad?

  • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world
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    25 days ago

    PSA: Home use? That’s probably okay. Work use? If you’re in-office, this is a ticking time-bomb that can get you fired, one way or another. Use the company 1password or whatever you have access to, please. Thank you.

    • Chaotic Entropy@feddit.uk
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      24 days ago

      InfoSec likes nothing more than for you to tell them not to worry because you write all your passwords down and only read emails after you’ve printed them. 100% secure.

    • Frostbeard@lemmy.world
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      24 days ago

      In my office I have a list that says passwords all nonsens and just as a decoy. I have a system that I use for rotation woth a visual reminder (by association, not directly) somwhere in my office

  • flop_leash_973@lemmy.world
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    25 days ago

    My mother using something similar to keep track of her passwords for everything. While I prefer a password manager like Bitwarden or Keepass. I would rather her use a note book like this over something like Google or Apples password managers.

    Or even worse, the same password for everything.

    • tabular@lemmy.world
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      26 days ago

      I’ve not found anything better. Storing on my computer, or worse someone else’s computer, doesn’t seem safe.

      • Bonesince1997@lemmy.world
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        26 days ago

        The trick is to use code language, and don’t forget the code. Then you can use digital sources more freely, I feel.

      • bdonvr@thelemmy.club
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        25 days ago

        It’s pretty safe. Competent password managers will be heavily encrypted. Having your passwords hacked is essentially unheard of. You don’t have to worry about it being on someone else’s computer as without your master password the password file is useless.

        I think the biggest case was LastPass, and they did it by getting a keylogger onto a developers PC to get at their password, but afaik customer passwords were safe unless your master password was weak or reused from a breached one.

        But, a notebook isn’t hackable at all. But then the people around you could potentially get into it, which is a far more likely threat for a ton of people.

        Either way use 2FA at every site that will allow it.

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          25 days ago

          LastPass’s biggest problem was that they were almost the first in the game, and mistakes/choices they made 20 years ago bit them hard when they got hacked.

          There were two major issues with LastPass’s security model:

          1. Non-Password data wasn’t encrypted. So usernames and urls were visible by the people who stole the vaults.
          2. Passwords were encrypted with a number of iterations based on when the account was created, so older accounts were only run through a single iteration. The iteration process makes it much harder to guess the master password(by making it take a longer time). So single iteration makes it pretty quick to guess the password.

          So with flaw 1 you could see what vaults might have valuable passwords like banks and crypto wallets. And with flaw 2 you could reasonably quickly break into the vaults of long time users.

          So aside from their lax security allowing the compromise to happen in the first place (Nothing is fool proof), they weren’t providing the level of protection most people assumed.

          More modern password managers like BitWarden fixed those problem a long time ago.

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          25 days ago

          One master password to rule them all, One server to find them, One password to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them.

          Yeah I use 2FA with the master notebook.

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      26 days ago

      My ex kept her’s in an unprotected excel file. I never peeked, I was just surprised when I saw her accessing it on her laptop.

    • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
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      25 days ago

      It really depends what the user fills it with. “Clever” solutions like using your daughter’s birthday, or other hard-to-remember-but-easy-to-deduce strings.

      It should be accompanied by a little machine that spits out random passwords, I’m thinking a rubics-cube-shaped bling pendant at the end of the bookmark band.