They are stating that it was necessary to put down the color-revolution, a western-backed riot where the organizers themselves admitted to trying to provoke a violent response:
The students keep asking, “What should we do next? What can we accomplish?” I feel so sad, because how can I tell them that what we are actually hoping for is bloodshed, for the moment when the government has no choice but to brazenly butcher the people. Only when the Square is awash with blood will the people of China open their eyes. Only then will they really be united. But how can I explain any of this to my fellow students?
(Are you going to stay in the Square yourself?)
No, I won’t. Because my situation is different. My name is on the government’s hit list. I’m not going to let myself be destroyed by this government. I want to live.
There were lynchings of officers, firebombings of vehicles, and widespread violence, all of a largely reactionary nature. These were not protests for social justice. Originally, they were ultraleft Maoists upset at Deng’s market reforms, but later they became liberal protests, backed by the US.
It was a tragedy that it happened at all, that’s correct, however if the counter-revolt succeeded in toppling socialism, countless lives would have been lost, just like when the USSR fell and 7 million people died that didn’t have to.
Not sure what you mean by “dodgy BS,” I have always been clear on what my stances are. I’m a Marxist-Leninist, I hold opinions generally held by Marxist-Leninists. I’m on Capital Volume 2. I’m a spooky scary socialist.
Oh, no, don’t get me wrong, I knew you were a tankie, I’ve just never seen you actually defending mass murder before. It was mostly talking about economic stuff and such.
The “mass murder” didn’t come from the Chinese state; it came from the CIA-backed terrorists. Like any state, the Chinese state has a duty to stop terrorist attacks.
I said it was tragic that it happened in the first place, and it’s horrible that the US took advantage of grievances the public had in order to force violent reaction. I also think it’s a good thing that the socialist system remained, millions more lives have been saved and extended thanks to it, regardless if the rioters that burned unarmed officers alive lived to see those lives saved.
Again, though, you’re deliberately avoiding having an actual conversation, and are looking to pick fights. I’ve talked about the June 4th incident before, several times, going over the causes, influences, distortions by the west, etc. A good source is Another View of Tiananmen by Sun Feiyang and Roderic Day.
I’m not going to apologize for being a Leftist, even if you call me pejoratives, lol.
They are stating that it was necessary to put down the color-revolution, a western-backed riot where the organizers themselves admitted to trying to provoke a violent response:
There were lynchings of officers, firebombings of vehicles, and widespread violence, all of a largely reactionary nature. These were not protests for social justice. Originally, they were ultraleft Maoists upset at Deng’s market reforms, but later they became liberal protests, backed by the US.
It was a tragedy that it happened at all, that’s correct, however if the counter-revolt succeeded in toppling socialism, countless lives would have been lost, just like when the USSR fell and 7 million people died that didn’t have to.
Not sure what you mean by “dodgy BS,” I have always been clear on what my stances are. I’m a Marxist-Leninist, I hold opinions generally held by Marxist-Leninists. I’m on Capital Volume 2. I’m a spooky scary socialist.
Oh, no, don’t get me wrong, I knew you were a tankie, I’ve just never seen you actually defending mass murder before. It was mostly talking about economic stuff and such.
The “mass murder” didn’t come from the Chinese state; it came from the CIA-backed terrorists. Like any state, the Chinese state has a duty to stop terrorist attacks.
📺 The Tiananmen Square “Massacre” Never Happened — [Sources]
I said it was tragic that it happened in the first place, and it’s horrible that the US took advantage of grievances the public had in order to force violent reaction. I also think it’s a good thing that the socialist system remained, millions more lives have been saved and extended thanks to it, regardless if the rioters that burned unarmed officers alive lived to see those lives saved.
Again, though, you’re deliberately avoiding having an actual conversation, and are looking to pick fights. I’ve talked about the June 4th incident before, several times, going over the causes, influences, distortions by the west, etc. A good source is Another View of Tiananmen by Sun Feiyang and Roderic Day.
I’m not going to apologize for being a Leftist, even if you call me pejoratives, lol.