• TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    Yes

    So are you for or against genocide here? Or are you what .ml refers to as a “reactionary”?

    They’re still an extremist organization that wants to genocide them back.

    Their motives make sense, but don’t pretend Hamas is all sunshine and rainbows

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      I’m against genocide, that’s why I am in favor of a one state solution.

      I never once pretended Hamas was sunshine and rainbows, and that’s incredibly dishonest. I simply stated that Hamas and the rest of Palestine hates Israel for their aparthied and genocide. Remove the Aparthied and Genocide, and we are good to go.

      Do you think that if Israel did a total 180, Palestinians would still want violent destruction of Israel?

      Additionally, I don’t think you know what a “reactionary” is if that’s how you’re using it.

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        Yes. Hamas is fighting a holy war, explicitly.

        A one state solution is good in theory, but the reality is those people hate each other, they’ve always hated each other. That part of the world has been completely shredded by Abrahamic faiths for as long as we’ve been writing shit down.

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          4 months ago

          So you’re in favor of vibes-based solutions, rather than taking the practical approach of dismantling the aparthied state and giving everyone democratic control, got it.

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            No, I really wish you’d stop coming up with different straw man arguments in every comment.

            The “practical approach” won’t work when you have two competing theocratic state. Dissolving Israel won’t make Hamas go away. Making Hamas go away won’t make Israel any less expansionist.

            I just said I don’t know what a good solution would be, I just don’t see one that doesn’t inevitably devolve into violence. Again.

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              The solution is to dismantle Israel as a genocidal aparthied state and have a single, democratic state take its place where Palestinians and Israelis alike are simply equal citizens.

              I suggest you look up the history of Israel and Palestine. A One State solution is the only viable long-term solution.

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                  Nope, but it will over time.

                  Like I said, you really need to do more investigation on this issue. As it stands, you just “both sides” the issue.

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                    It’s like you haven’t read a single word of what I’ve said.

                    “The day the enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem. In the face of the Jews’ usurpation, it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised." (Article 15) - The Hamas Covenant

                    Did you know it’s possible to acknowledge multiple facts at a time? This kind of theocratically driven hatred doesn’t really go away, we’ve seen that repeated all throughout history