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return2ozma@lemmy.world to News@lemmy.world · 1 month ago

'That's a cult': Alex Jones disavows Trump after he tells fans to drop Epstein

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'That's a cult': Alex Jones disavows Trump after he tells fans to drop Epstein

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return2ozma@lemmy.world to News@lemmy.world · 1 month ago
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Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones expressed dissatisfaction with President Donald Trump after he ordered MAGA fans to stop talking about Jeffrey Epstein."So now Trump has slammed 'past supporters' over fixation on Epstein," Jones explained on his Wednesday program. "And I am just like, whoa, okay. That...
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    I mean, he doesn’t flip-flop hardly ever or change policies in decades.

    Jones said this without any sense of irony.

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      I mean, can you even point to an example of flip-flopping?

      I’m kidding, we all know. We are a circus.

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        Not sure if this counts as your definition of ‘flip flopping’ but uh… it counts in my book.

        https://youtube.com/watch?v=x-QcbOphxYs

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    I’ve seen this one. How long before he retracts?

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    Related:

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/16/politics/trump-epstein-weaklings-supporters

    “Their new SCAM is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax, and my PAST supporters have bought into this ‘bullshit,’ hook, line, and sinker,” Trump wrote in a missive on Truth Social. “They haven’t learned their lesson, and probably never will, even after being conned by the Lunatic Left for 8 long years."

    “I have had more success in 6 months than perhaps any President in our Country’s history, and all these people want to talk about, with strong prodding by the Fake News and the success starved Dems, is the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax,” he wrote. “Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats work, don’t even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don’t want their support anymore!”

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    Nothing Alex says ever means something. He’ll change his mind tomorrow if it’s profitable. His opinion is worth less than nothing.

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      Yup. He’s “disavowed” Trump before, but he always goes crawling back.

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    alex jones is a sycophantic spineless loser with no concrete beliefs other than the fear of something bad happening to Hwhite people such as his fear of a police state wasn’t so bad once trump was in power and he knew Hwhite people where safe, he has admitted that free housing and food could really help lower crime only to go right back to hating socialism not a day later, his inside sources have historically been callers that phone in with their own theories a day or maybe and hour before to be labeled as top insiders, I imagine most of you have never heard about his outburst how when trump bombed syria trump “shoves ISIS up his dirty asshole” but still came back around to grovel at trump’s feet, and don’t get me started on how his fat face constantly replaces V’s with B’s “it’s on a whole nother lebel folks” or how he’s the king of dead air

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      I love that this has this “Lifestyle” header above it lol

      It’s the small things…

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    Trump is now the one turning the frogs gay?

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    I’m sorry, but this is Rawstory writing what people wanna hear for clickbait. Here’s their cut clip:

    https://rumble.com/v6w9hfk-thats-a-cult-alex-jones-disavows-trump-after-he-tells-fans-to-drop-epstein.html

    That is not repudiation. It’s wobbling on a single tweet.

    Honestly I wish this source was softbanned from /c/news. Like it is from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#The_Raw_Story

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      Look through his posts. He posted cuts close to that. He’s been criticizing more than just this tweet

      https://xcancel.com/realalexjones

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        The pinned post is literally:

        Wednesday LIVE: Desperate Deep State/MSM Pushes “Epstein Hoax” & “MAGA Divorce” In Attempt To Fracture & Bring Down The Trump Administration! Tune In NOW For Latest Developments As Alex Jones Covers This & Other Key Issues!

        Scrolling down, I see clips of him being… combatively apologist. The tone being “Trump is an idiot for doing this, instead of that.”

        Also, thank the heavens xcancel is still running from whatever black magic backend they’ve figure out.

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          He’s hedging and still trying to support some/most of the Trump line, but he isn’t doing the usual 100% blind support of Trump

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            Alex Jones predates Trump and has always been combative, even about Trump policy, from what I’ve seen. He criticized some of Trump’s earlier moves, like with Ukraine.

            This is all in character for him, though I admit that’s just my surface impression.


            But objectively, his pinned tweet outright says “MAGA Divorce is a false liberal meme.” That is not the message of someone “disavowing” Trump.

            You can try to read between the lines, but IMO you should take what he says at face value.

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    Who TF cares what Alex Jones thinks? You’re more likely to get an interesting take from a random stranger. In fact, do that instead of continuing to give attention to dried up former celebrities where you can be absolutely certain they don’t deserve it.

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      Nobody on Lemmy cares but a portion of Trump’s base absolutely does. That’s why this is somewhat reassuring to see, as although the Republicans are great at ignoring Democrat’s demands, they can’t completely ignore their own party’s.

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    I never thought I’d agree with this lunatic. And because he says he was never in said cult, I guess we still disagree. Whew, what a relief.

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    “But now Trump, if this continues down this line, if he starts saying I’ll excommunicate people, well, you’re not allowed, unless it’s a cult, to say to people, you either agree with everything I do and don’t question things, or you’re not in our club, I don’t want you, well, that kind of sounds like a thoroughbred cult to me.”

    “But when somebody starts saying, don’t question things, or you can’t be in our club, yeah, that’s a cult,” he added. “So this isn’t a divorce because I was never married to Trump. And this is not an excommunication because I was never in the church of Trump.”

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      Where has he been these past 10 years? Or is it only because it affects him personally now?

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        Mostly playing shell games to avoid paying out for Sandy Hook

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    Ha ha ha this is just one continuous shit show.

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    It’s not my birthday, but I’ll accept this gift.

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    Here are all of the Epstein Files that have either been leaked or released.

    https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706.1320.0-combined.pdf (verified court documents)

    https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/black-book-unredacted.pdf (verified pre-Bondi) Trump is on page 85, or pdf pg. 80

    Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List“. Here is the story:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsiKUXrlcac

    Here’s the flight logs: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165424-epstein-flight-logs-released-in-usa-vs-maxwell/

    —————————other Epstein Information

    https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Calif_Lawsuit.pdf here’s a court doc of Epstein and Trump raping a 13 yr old together.

    Some people think this claim is a hoax. Here is Katie’s testimony on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRo

    —————————other Trump information:

    Here’s trump admitting to peeping on 14-15 year old girls at around 1:40 on the Howard Stern Radio Show: https://youtu.be/iFaQL_kv_QY

    Trump’s promise to his daughter: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-dating-promise_n_57ee98cbe4b024a52d2ead02 “I have a deal with her. She’s 17 and doing great ― Ivanka. She made me promise, swear to her that I would never date a girl younger than her,” Trump said. “So as she grows older, the field is getting very limited.”

    Trump’s modeling agency was allegedly part of Jeffreys pipeline: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-model-management-illegal-immigration/

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