• Swordgeek@lemmy.ca
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    6 months ago

    How is this not fraud?

    It’s a simple question. They are deliberately misleading and lying to customers for unlawful corporate gain.

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      6 months ago

      Switching to Linux won’t save you if Microsoft Edge takes such a huge market share that a lot of the internet starts to basically require it.

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        6 months ago

        What would that be? Microsoft Edge is a Chromium browser, it can’t do more with webpages than Chrome or any other of the bunch can.

        Oh and Edge is available for Linux, so there’s that. Not that I’d use it…

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          6 months ago

          Microsoft can modify chromium. They can add proprietary things to it. Yes you could use edge if you have to critical pages that only works right on edge.

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            So wait, let me get this straight, people shouldn’t install Linux to avoid windows because they might make edge somehow critical to the use of major websites? Why not just use Linux anyways since that’s not happening anytime soon (especially not with the market share Chrome and Firefox have)

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              6 months ago

              I didn’t say people shouldn’t install Linux. But even if you do, browser share matters and if Microsoft is abusing their customers and tricking them into using edge in mass, then it will affect you as a Linux user too.

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    6 months ago

    I fought with Broadcom’s shitty website for hours, but finally have Workstation Pro, in which I will test my workflows in Linux.

    Games and Lightroom will be a challenge, but I’m going to avoid Win11 at all costs.

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    6 months ago

    This time the software giant is trying out having PC Manager suggest that you ‘repair’ your system by reverting to Microsoft’s default search engine, Bing.

    These are sound like things that are just begging European union to milk out some cash from Microsoft through fines.

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    6 months ago

    Microsoft needs to be broken up.

    Any company that can be so blatantly anti consumer and still makes boatloads of money is obviously abusing its dominant position on the market.

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    6 months ago

    That’s because they’ve integrated it into the start menu. Evil, yes. But technically correct.

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    6 months ago

    “[…] switching the default search engine back to Bing […] from Google Search (or whatever other browser is set as default).”

    Google is a Browser now, neat. And somehow it’s relevant in a post about search engines.

    “Microsoft Edge, the default browser pre-installed on Windows machines, and Bing Search aren’t bad products by any means - they are solid alternatives to Google’s own Chrome and Search.”

    They may be good compared to Chrome and now also Google. But even rotten eggs are better than literal shit, at least for most people.

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    Imagine you have a computer that’s been compromised by malware. What do you think the search engine will be set to? Not Google, not Bing, probably some third party one that has ads and malware. Changing that to Bing would technically qualify as a repair.

    They could easily improve this by just adding a list of common reputable search engines, and adding those to an allow list.

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      As a Linux aficionado, I appreciate you trying to bring an argument for Windows in good faith and a potential way for Microsoft to improve it. This is even if steering people to Bing is Microsoft’s intention with this move so they are unlikely to improve it in the way you suggested.

      Since forever, Microsoft-affiliated products are often the only things that get the “trusted” label within the Microsoft ecosystem.

      • Lexi Sneptaur@pawb.social
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        6 months ago

        Yeah it’s not ideal. I just don’t see a world where Microsoft will set people’s search engine to DuckDuckGo

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      6 months ago

      Yeah, but back then you Americans had a government. I can’t see it happening with your current circus.

      The EU, however, is already looking at MS over teams monopoly practises (fucking finally!), I’m hoping edge and copilot/bing are on their radar too!

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    6 months ago

    I use a mixture of Linux and Windows 10 LTSC on my PCs/servers/VMs. I will be the first to admit that Windows does sometimes make sense to use. My desktop PC and my dev environment are both Windows 10.

    That being said, what is the advantage in using Windows 11 over 10? As far as I can tell, it’s worse in every way. Built-in ads, a crappier UI, forced obsolescence with TPM requirements, and “feature” bloat that nobody asked for.

    10 was a clear improvement over 8, but 11 just seems all-around worse.

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      what is the advantage in using Windows 11 over 10?

      Many years ago, I was at a Windows XP launch event and the Microsoft Rep had a really honest line:
      “Why should you start using Windows XP? Because we’re going to stop supporting Windows 98!”

      And ya, that’s pretty much been the cattle prod Microsoft uses to push new versions, eventually you stop getting security updates for the older OS and at some point there are enough security vulnerabilities which make it no longer safe for daily use. That said, with Windows becoming more and more user hostile, other options start to make more sense.

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        I’d like to hope that by the time Win10 is no longer supported, we have Win12 that doesn’t suck. The way things are going, though, I doubt it. I’m expecting that Win10 will be the last version of Windows I use.

        I still prefer Windows over Linux for gaming and software development, but everyone has their limit. I am strongly opposed to advertisements, and when I can no longer block ads from my operating system, it’s dead to me.

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        I never upgraded software-wise. Moreso my tech got so outdated that new hardware I’d get (I only use Windows for gaming) would have the latest Windows installed - exactly what Microsoft wants.

        I think Proton/Linux in the past year is going to really disrupt that strategy.