A homeowner in Goodyear, Arizona is locked in a dispute with his homeowner’s association over his practice of distributing free cold water from his driveway.

  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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    8 hours ago

    My city has bylaws for that sort of thing. I can’t let my grass turn into a jungle either. That’s also a bylaw. Shoveling snow into the street? Guess what, bylaw.

    Don’t need an HOA full of overbearing Karen’s to Lord over me about what color I painted my garage on top of the fairly loose bylaws that I also need to abide by.

    At least with bylaws they’re enforced by public workers, not Karen from next door.

    • HugeNerd@lemmy.ca
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      8 hours ago

      You guys are wrong. The city handles what overflows onto ITS property, they don’t care about your property. That’s what the HOA is for.

      You can’t leave your trash on the sidewalk (city property) randomly, the city can’t do jack shit if some slob leaves his trash on his lawn.

      Until rats set in. You guys comfortable leaving things degenerate to that level until the city acts?

      • socsa@piefed.social
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        6 hours ago

        You are the one who is clueless. My city absolutely will fine people for violating the upkeep laws. I know because I’ve been fined for grass before, and I know one of my neighbors had an abandoned, rotting car towed out of their driveway.

      • Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works
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        7 hours ago

        This is straight up not true in many places. Where I live they have a long list of things you can’t have in your yard, or in your yard for extended periods of time. They have a list of rules for the flora, maintenance, etc.

        The only time your assumption is true is the inside of the house. They can’t do much there until it is a fire hazard, bio hazard, etc. , but that level of hoarding stuff is not common, and even then, there are limits to it before the city intervenes

        • HugeNerd@lemmy.ca
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          7 hours ago

          That’s my point. They’ll do something when it’s three feet tall, but maybe I want the neighbor to cut it before it reaches that level?

          • Null User Object@lemmy.world
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            7 hours ago

            That’s my point.

            No, that wasn’t your point. Now you’re moving the goal post. Your point was, and I quote,

            The city handles what overflows onto ITS property, they don’t care about your property.

            Plus, the article explicitly states that the ordinance specifies 12 inches, not three feet.

            You can keep digging your hole deeper, but it’s not going to support your claim. Your just wrong here, and one sign of a well adjusted adult is knowing when to admit they’re wrong.

            • HugeNerd@lemmy.ca
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              7 hours ago

              They don’t care about your property, right. No one wants 12 inch grass.

              It is you who is wrong. The HOAs exist to make people respect human living conditions, not the contractor-grade specs the city enforces for its purposes.

              Try to picture a city with just the city rules enforced. All right, it’s 1 foot tall grass, not three feet. OK, it’s three trash bags with rats, not 12.

              That enough? Of course it isn’t.

              The grass matters to the city when it overflows onto its property. One hopes that in the vast majority of cases, people will maintain their property a bit better on their own. The HOA just makes it possible to ensure that. The vast majority of HOAs aren’t PITAs, only the extreme stories make it to the news.

              If you like your lawn 1 foot tall with trash bags everywhere, move to where there is no HOA. I realize there are fewer and fewer trailer parks these days, but that’s not my fault.

              I don’t know how to put it simpler.

              " Your just wrong here, and one sign of a well adjusted adult is knowing when to admit they’re wrong."

              It’s “you’re”, and I’m not, and take your own advice.