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    At full capacity, the one in Cheyenne would draw as much power as 55,000 homes.

    The Times found Chinese-owned or -operated Bitcoin mines in at least 12 states, including Arkansas, Ohio, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas and Wyoming, that together use as much power as 1.5 million homes.

    That’s a lot of juice.

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      That’s the big environmental issue with Bitcoin — other major cryptocurrencies have moved to proof-of-stake instead of proof-of-work, so they don’t need vast quantities of energy, and when you stop using all that energy, the generators with the highest marginal cost shut down, which generally means coal or gas.

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        Proof of stake is just the Fed all over again.

        Proof of work isn’t perfect, but there’s a reason Bitcoin uses it.

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          What’s the reason? Using more electricity than whole nations just to move some money around hardly seems worth the cost.

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            Because the stakeholders become the new central bank, with all the same motivations and conflicts of interest. You end up with a “staked class” and an “unstaked class”.

            This is a contributing factor to why ethereum can be rolled back: because the stakeholders didn’t like it.

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              Bitcoin essentially has the same thing though — it’s just that the “staked class” is those who have built power-devouring ASIC facilities to compute lots of hashes. Get enough of them together, and you can roll back transactions via a Sybil attack, just as you can with organized action by stakeholders in a proof-of-stake cryptocurrency.

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          …because it was too early to know any better and the creators are stubborn, lazy, and passively malicious?

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        A few months ago I read up on how much energy is used in a bitcoin transaction compared to a VISA transaction, it was something like 10000 times more energy for a bitcoin transaction