• worldofbirths@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    I still have a checkbook for the occasional handy man that doesn’t want cash or transfer. I’m pretty sure most apps take a cut from business accounts, and others will report to the IRS when you make a certain amount, so for some workers it makes sense to avoid the apps.

    Zelle is somehow the one that is usually free and does not report, but my credit union has a daily limit for Zelle transfers, so if the bill is larger, I offer payment in check as an alternative to cash since it’s safer.

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    What does it even mean “one less account to track?” The money is still coming from a bank account, if you track the money in your account you would still have to account for a check, and it would be even worse if the check isn’t cashed right away.

    Is it that you don’t have the monthly credit card bill if you send a check? But you’re spending the same amount of money regardless, checks are more like one-off credit card transactions, that don’t confirm payment like a credit card does. Checks are worse for the payment-neurotic. That’s maybe an argument for debit cards, it’s not an argument for checks.

  • MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world
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    What? The only payments I make that could take checks are my bills and it’s not like I wouldn’t have to keep track of those just because I’m paying by check. I don’t understand this at all.

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      Yeah, I know this artist has gotten a lot of shit in the past for little reason, but this is truly an absurd take.

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      Pretty sure they mean one less account someone could track you with, because yeah, staying on top of sending monthly checks for stuff is something I’m very glad I don’t have to do anymore. My credit took multiple hits in my younger days from bills I forgot to pay on time.

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    8 months ago

    Password Manager

    There will be lots of a useless accounts you have to make in life. Scale yourself. Many such accounts will not be optional. At least this one provides you with some value.

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      8 months ago

      Password managers are good; but keeping track of passwords is not the main problem with making online accounts for everything.

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        Every account need a valid mail direction, ofte als with 2FA a phone number, both pretty easy to track in the network. Every website know your ISP, your public IP, your OS and a lot of other data which they can store and sell it to third parties for commercial reasons. Never create an account if it is not essential for you.

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          Pretty sure that a company that I would otherwise write checks to with my name address and phone number already has the lion’s share of those details. My IP address and operating system are the least of my concern in that case.

          Hiding my IP address from the power company seems like a limited improvement.

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      8 months ago

      Hard why not both? You should use a password manager & create less accounts on platforms or sharing your phone/email if you can help it.

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        Sure, in general yes. But in reference to the comment, writing a check they would already have my name address and some reference to my bank account details even without the online account, which implies a high degree of trust.

        If I need an account to read an article on a website? Then I’m not interested in reading your article.

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          V true. I was think more along the lines of any sort of cash, debit, check transfer that doesn’t involve accounts or folks skimming money off the top rather than checks specifically when interpretting the meme.

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    Americans once again making shit more complicated than it needs to be. Most of the world has moved on from cheques to wire transfers, deposits, etc. all done through online banking.

    Every transaction is tracked and accounted for. No need for this bullshit.

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      I am french, I use cheques , I also use wire transfers and many other bank option but I hope more place would accept my cheque. Also cheque transaction are tracjed and accounted just like others.

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      I’m American, and all of this stuff happens automatically and digitally after I set up any new account. I’m not sure how writing a check would be easier.

      Some banks still offer the transitional system I remember where they do it on your behalf, so once you have all your payees, you can go in every month and put in the amounts for each bill, and they mail a check from the bank to each place.

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    I think the last time I cashed a cheque my elderly mum wrote it. Had no idea before that people even still had cheque books after 2002 or something, but fortunately I didn’t have to find if there was a branch of my bank left within fifty miles because you can scan them in the app and pretend the other person sent you money in a normal way.

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      I’m the same way. But since I’ve been having to handle my elderly relative’s estate I’ve had to write a ton of checks. The clerk of court requires the use of checks to pay bills for the estate. The estate account was issued a debit card but the bank said I couldn’t use it because of the same requirement.

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    8 months ago

    I think checks are a thing of only American past. Can’t think of anywhere else where they used checks so frequently. While they existed, they were the exception

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    I mean… The account exists if you log into it or not. You still need to keep track of it so that you’re paying into the correct account, and so that you know how much to pay.

    Only you now have to talk to a person if you need to check or change anything.

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      Not the account for the random hotel or restaurant. “Pay with the O’Burger app!” “Collect 425 SkyPoints with a Platinum Membership!”

      You don’t need an online account to buy food at a grocery, but if you had one I guarantee they’d spam the heck out of you, alongside whatever else they might do with your data.

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          I mean, paying for Netflix with cash would definitely be a power move.

          Utilities don’t have special offers that I know of. Check or online is very country dependent though.

          I’m having a little trouble thinking of a service that would have automatic reminders but not require an account to access the service… Hotel? Something with layaway? Maybe car payments. Tuition too. Those don’t exactly seem like spurious account services though… Maybe the reminders are for pickup?

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            My VPN sometimes sends me reminders and special offers when my contact is almost up, for example. Mobile phone data usage reminders and warnings. Even just reminders that they’re going to be charging your card on payment day.

            But mainly I don’t wanna leave home so paperless has already won for me lol

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        I had an apartment that switched payment processor that jacked up my credit card fee well above my cash back (prob cuz people like me ended up saving like 10/mo), so I just switched to bank issued checks that they send for me.

        Using the checkbook I got 20 years ago is just a massive pain in the ass.

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          Also, most all US small to mid sized business transactions are by check.

          I’m not going to take a suitcase with over $10,000 to the city to pay a permit fee, or $50,000 Venmo to pay a business partner.

          Unless you are in the marijuana industry, then you have to…

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            Also, most all US small to mid sized business transactions are by check.

            Why? It is a bank transfer with extra steps. A check can get unreadable, get lost… No one in Germany would write a check for a permit fee or to pay a business partner. You pay online. Fast, safe, can’t get lost, easy to proof what, when to whom you have paid for years to come. And the transfer won’t get through if you do not have money on your account or are allowed to overdraw, while you can write whatever you want on a check and then run.

            It is not cash or check it is bank transfer or check and the bank transfer is the safer, faster option. All they do at a bank is to scan the check and to turn it into the exact same bank transfer it could have been in the first place. All you do is adding a layer of risk by writing on a piece of paper.

            I find that really funny, because many Germans still refuse to buy their groceries without cash, many like me do not own a credit card only debit cards, but no one younger than 90 uses a check. I am 58 years old and have never owned checks.

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              I don’t know what to tell you, but I work in business in the US and work in invoicing in the construction industry.

              Everything is done via paper, full stop.

              Bank transfers do not generate invoices, full stop. Company to company payments are made using a PO or check. Nothing else, in my experience, are accepted.

              These are for amounts of $1 to tens of millions of $$$.

    • xia@lemmy.sdf.orgOP
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      If it’s any indication… the last time I ordered checks their website was littered with nuisance upsell popups that significantly hindered that task (felt kinda like Indiana Jones navigating booby traps), so I think the “check industry” (if that is a thing?) is getting desperate.