There are a lot of tanky posts coming from lemmy.ml. Their whole purpose seems to be to troll and spread their bullshit far and wide. They are nearly as bad as the alt-right. They argue in bad faith and celebrate authoritarian oppression. The beehaw mods might want to consider defederating.

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    I defederated months ago for exactly why you described. Night and day difference in how enjoyable Lemmy can be.

    Like, yes, capitalism is failing us. But jumping into every comment thread and shutting down every conversation that’s not advocating for the complete and utter destruction of the current economic model is exhausting.

    It may not be organized brigading, but it’s definitely brigading. At first, I did miss some big FOSS communities that were there, but over time, similar communities elsewhere became more active. Good riddance.

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      Indeed. I enjoyed the asklemmy community over there, but lately there have been some “questions” posted that clearly have an agenda. Basically begging the question. I’m not saying I’m some free-market, anti-regulation libertarian. Far from it. But like you said, not every post has to be about that, and that we can discuss other things other than the downfall of capitalism. So I unsubscribed from that community, and even considered leaving Lemmy altogether since I feel like those types of posts/comments are so pervasive lately.

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        So I unsubscribed from that community, and even considered leaving Lemmy altogether since I feel like those types of posts/comments are so pervasive lately.

        I was at that same point back in November/December. Finally just defederated from .ml entirely and started blocking any agenda-pushing accounts in general, and wow, what a difference.

        .ml wasn’t as bad back when I first started on Lemmy during the Rexodus (most of that was all on grad), but it’s definitely become grad-lite since then. My guess is at least a portion of the grad crowd migrated over since it’s a commonly defederated instance.

        I kinda wish .ml wasn’t the official / de-facto flagship instance. I wonder how many people would have joined the Reddit-style corner of the Fediverse but were put off by .ml thinking that’s what it’s all like.

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          I’ve tried to recommend Beehaw to others, but I don’t think I’ve gotten a single bite. Because when they visit Beehaw, they also see content from the other parts of Lemmy – both posts and comments – that Beehaw still federates with, including .ml, and are turned off by a lot of it.

          A big part of it is not understanding how the fediverse works, but that’s to be expected; it is confusing. But even having heard my explanation, they’re often still like, “Meh, I’ll just stick with reddit…” because, as you mentioned, first impressions are everything.

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          Blocking instances is equivalent to blocking all communities on that instance - so that means you’ll still see comments from users on that instance and the users on those instances will still have an influence on your feed via voting.

          Just pointing out that letting users block instances individually is not necessarily the desired solution.

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          Thanks for the reminder; always forget that’s an option. Luckily Beehaw already defederated from Hexbear and lemmygrad.

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          Beehaw’s still on 0.18.4 and from a post I saw a while back, isn’t planning to go beyond that. So user-level instance blocking isn’t an option there, unfortunately.

          Instance blocking also only blocks posts; you’ll still see the users from there in the comments. So it’s nice, but doesn’t go quite far enough; you still have to block obnoxious accounts manually/individually.

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      Yes capitalism is failing us but their belief that forcing everyone into their “ism” will lead to utopia is a disingenuous lie.

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        Not so hard to understand that a government representing people instead of a government representing corporations makes a hell of a lot more sense for humanity.

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          I think we all want a government that represents the individual. I think we want the opportunity to contribute to society. I think we want the opportunity for self-betterment. I think we want to be understood by society. But choosing to die on the altar of some “ism” doesn’t get us there.

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            There is a reason why the CIA’s sole purpose of existence has been to target socialism and communism. The US has been blasted with propaganda. I don’t expect you to “convert” but try and keep an open mind.