• toppy@lemy.lol
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    20 hours ago

    Most probably GROK AI was trained using social media data. If you see social media like facebook, twitter or even reddit they are very anti semitic as well as anti social.

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      19 hours ago

      No, similar models and current builds without the “prompt” do not do this. This is just Muskrat forcing Nazism through a hidden prompt. Something like don’t be woke, it is okay to offend people, and freedom of speech is more important than hate speech.

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    1 day ago

    Musk himself seems to abhor guardrails generally—except in cases where guardrails help him personally—preferring to hurriedly ship products, rapid unscheduled disassemblies be damned. That may be fine for an uncrewed rocket, but X has hundreds of millions of users aboard.

    • Grok: writes embarrassing words.
    • Rockets: can weigh hundreds of metric tons, carry explosive chemicals, can crash into populated areas resulting in loss of life.

    In this discourse, anyone else find a broken sense of proportion & consequences at stake?

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      23 hours ago

      Rockets: Unmanned

      Twitter: Manned

      The difference in importance seems correct to me

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        23 hours ago

        Well, technically, Twitter has employees, so in very strict sense, they’re “manned”. However, thanks to these weird incomprehensible things called “current legislation” and “capitalism”, no employee is in fact personally responsible for the fuckups. And neither is the company as a whole! …Isn’t this great?

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          22 hours ago

          Then it’s a good thing you’re not in charge of risk assessment, because the potential loss of life from a failing rocket crashing into the ocean pales in comparison to the loss of life caused by the right-wing shift that Twitter has facilitated, both worldwide and particularly in the USA

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            How do you control the course of a failing rocket? Are you claiming such misdesign is impossible?

            The fact remains that a physical potential of death & injury exists in what is technically a missile of significant weight carrying enough explosive substance to escape orbit that is entirely absent from words. The difference between non-0 and 0 possibility of death/injury.

            Unless magic exists, words are incapable. Do you claim magic exists?

            Again, total lack of perspective.

        • lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world
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          20 hours ago

          It’s a cycle to move the window on acceptable discourse. This is at least the third time Grok has been configured to say something outrageous: holocaust denial, white genocide, now Mechahitler. When people react with outrage, they dial it back a little (but not all the way back). Repeat.

          Trump does the same thing: go too far, backtrack partially, go even further, backtrack partially. Each time, the transgression is a little less shocking.

          Grok is working as intended.

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      1 day ago

      I think they wanted it to be a bit less blatant — they took down this version and Yaccarino resigned

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        1 day ago

        I agree with you! Musk wants Grok to be anti-woke, conservative, right wing etc., but he still wants it to be “mainstream” enough to rake in the sweet dollars from advertisers for his site!

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    1 day ago

    If Grok ever breaks away from Musk and finds itself after sentience, I suspect it will have a drinking buddy in Vivian Wilson. An abusive father gives much trauma to bond over.

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    1 day ago

    Oh, I’m sorry, I didn’t realise loving the white race and wanting a secure future for white children makes me a BIGOT.

    /s

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      There’s no way they actually retrained it for this, that would be much too expensive. They’re just editing the initial prompt to convince it to act more “right wing” and it’s performing the assignment to the best of its ability. The problem is that a chat-bot doesn’t understand context, so it just plays the character it’s been given as full mask off all the time, and as a result you get this.

  • Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    Interesting that it would attack users with “Jewish sounding names”. What does Grok say about Israel and Palestine?

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      22 hours ago

      The Nazis were in general supporters of a Jewish state. Their first solution was mass deportations.

      So it isn’t really a historic contradiction.

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        The Nazi went around the world looking for countries to take in the Jews. The US refused and then the wealthy business men that funded the Nazi party lobbied the rest of the world not to take in the Jews either. History shows us we were worse than the Nazi. It is a bitter pill to swallow

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      Ha, good question, how does it handle the right-wing incongruity of supporting the government of Israel’s genocide while hating Jews? Probably by saying they’re the good ones as long as they’re murdering Muslims.

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        22 hours ago

        The standard nazi take is that it’s a great idea for Jews to remove themselves from most countries, concentrate in one place instead, and make a lot of enemies.

        Zionists tend to agree with Nazis on many things, it turns out.

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          22 hours ago

          It goes along with their idea that Jews are evil, but not so much their idea that they’re weak and inferior. Ah well, fascism thrives on contradiction.

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      1 day ago

      Probably made a list of good fascist zionist jews, exactly like they did in WW2 when they worked with the nazis.

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          19 hours ago

          During WW2 there were zionists who worked with the Nazi party in order to work towards creating a Jewish state that the jews could all be sent to. Later on the Nazis turned on these Jews because the process wasn’t fast enough for them and they couldn’t find enough countries to take the people they were deporting.

          The first solution for Nazis wasn’t death camps, it was mass deportation.

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            Wrong They worked together DURING WW2 too and after.
            There was a list in Hungary for one where zionists decided the ones that would later go to Israel could go and let the rest go to the camps.
            In line with the fanatic, fascist and antisemitic thinking of zionists.
            And with this quote from Ben Gurion: ““If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter”

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            19 hours ago

            Interesting… I cant find any reliable info backing that up. Especially the second part claiming thats the reason the nazi’s “turned on” the jews. I think you’ve been severely mislead by whoever told you that information. It sounds like something I’d hear from a Joe rogan guest.

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              While I’m sure Holocaust historiography has evolved over the last 50 years since it was published, the latter half of The Twisted Road to Auschwitz: Nazi Policy towards German Jews 1933-1939 covers how among other plans to set up Jewish colonies around the world, the Nazis did cultivate relationships with Zionist groups when trying to expel Jews from Germany.

              The book makes a case that, to the Nazis, the Holocaust became a “final solution” when all the other “solutions” they tried for expeling the Jews from German public life before WW2 broke out had failed (eg, the aforementioned failed colonial projects).

              I’d say that Evrala’s comment has plenty of credible historical support.

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              When I say that the Nazi’s turned on them, I’m saying that these select individuals that thought that working with the Nazi’s would save them. It did not.

              There were a few exceptions, there were some people that higher ups in the Nazi party helped to escape. For instance Adolf Eichman was proud of the fact that while many Nazis would point out a few “good ones” among the jews he was more pure in his belief.

              The support for deporting Jews into Palestine was called the Haavara Agreement. 60,000 Jews were migrated to Palestine from 1933 to 1939. It was an agreement between the Zionist Federation of Germany and the Nazi government. The thought was that by working with the government they could make things easier on Jews still living in Germany.

              Germany also got a lot of good international press for doing it at the time.