I was talking to a friend and complaining that the nearest grocery store is 3km from me, he says that Europeans consider that a reasonable distance to the store and I’m just being lazy.

I don’t have a car, I don’t have a bike, and the bus only comes by every four hours. Am I being unreasonable for not wanting to carry groceries 3km in 30C weather, or is my friend full of shit? Neither of us have been to Europe.

  • slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org
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    11 hours ago

    The closest supermarket is 6km away. I either walk or cycle 1k to the bus stop or all the way by ebike. The way home is super steep, otherwise i would probably take the normal bike. It’s nice, because i can go all the way without touching an asphalt road.

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    11 hours ago

    I’m not really a European but I’m close enough I guess (Turkish). The closest supermarket to me is less than a hundred meters away, with 3 others available in a 250m radius around my home.

    3km walk in this weather sounds like hell to be honest. You could use a grocery delivery service though if you have one available in your country.

  • Iron Lynx@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    Even fairly rural Europeans will consider that to be at least cycling distance.

    I have four supermarkets in a radius of about 500 metres. Not only do I regularly walk, I pretty much buy only what I need for a few days, safe in the knowledge that if I need something now, I can be out & back in under half an hour, also knowing that most supermarkets here are reliably stocked with just what I need.

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    13 hours ago

    My usual place is 250m from my home, or around 3 minutes walking. There’s like another 5 supermarkets, 5 bakeries, 4 greengrocers and 3 butchers about 500 meters away (off the top of my head, there could be more).

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    15 hours ago

    Used to be 5km where I grew up in the Netherlands, nowadays living in Germany it’s 1km but uphill (don’t have those in NL!). In either case I don’t want to walk it and there’s not a chance I would if it’s 30 degrees out: that temperature means it’s probably in a month of the year where I burn within 10-20 minutes. I’d have to put on sunscreen for going to the store! They better have a sandy beach aisle

  • KarfiolosHus@discuss.tchncs.de
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    16 hours ago

    Outskirts of Budapest, closest supermarket is bit more than 1.5 km, so I did my daily shopping when I walked the dog. I would guess 45 min round trip.

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    16 hours ago

    The closest one to me is about 1km, I walk there if I don’t have to get too much stuff. 3km? I don’t know. In nice weather maybe, if I’m not in a hurry.

  • maks@sh.itjust.works
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    16 hours ago

    People in this thread seems to live near big cities, which isn’t really representative of the whole european population.

    I live in rural france, the closest grocery store since I was born is 20km away (20min drive, no bus), and I moved 3 times - still about 20km.

    Lots of people I know would love a store to be 3km away

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      16 hours ago

      My girlfriend lives in a rural area. When we go groceries we consider it an outdoor activity. It’s like 4km away from her house

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    16 hours ago

    I have a small shop with basics and a seasonal farm stand about 400 meters from me and I walk that for anything I need from there, or another larger but still small shop another 300m past the first one. But selection is limited.

    There’s a gross supermarket about 2km away, and I wouldn’t object to walking that, but I don’t think I ever have. In the same amount of time I could drive 4km to the good supermarket or large green market and get better products. I regularly go for 5-7km runs, often past the gross supermarket, so it’s more so that if I need something from a supermarket, I would rather do a full shopping trip, or stop at the store or market on the way home from work.

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    16 hours ago

    I live in Berlin. I can go shopping for groceries, head back home, cook a meal using those groceries and eat within one hour of home office lunch break.

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    17 hours ago

    The closest grocery store/supermarket is around 1km away from my house and a few others are just slightly further away. I could walk there, but I have better ways to use my time, so I just go with my bike.

    The pannier bags also enable me to buy heavy stuff without having to lift it the whole way.

  • Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz
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    17 hours ago

    My day to day walking to grocery stores is something like one kilometer. Bus goes every ten or fifteen minutes near my home. I don’t like biking that’s why I decided to walk. Every now and then I walk to the city, which is 5 km from my home, I don’t think it’s too far, but if I go to shopping there I usually come back with a bus.