Waited weeks for this and was so excited it finally arrived today. Unboxed it, put it on charge, and…nothing. Won’t boot up, no signs of life. He’s dead, Jim.

Now I have to send it back and wait who knows how long if I want a replacement. Probably just going to ask for a refund; I can’t wait another 4-6 weeks or wait for one to ship from the September batch. Ugh!

Mildly infuriating, highly disappointing.

      • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘@infosec.pub
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        Maybe I’m misunderstanding the use case of this phone. Like, what’s the benefit of this phone as compared to another smartphone, if used in a restrictive manner? Besides the eink, which, for me, is a huge seller.

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          I think the selling point is that it is less distracting because the black and white eink display does not support videos or social media doom scrolling.

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            Ah ok, so instead of minimizing your own usage by uninstalling apps and such, you’re getting help from the device’s physical inability to use those apps and, thus, remove the temptations. Ok, cool! That’s actually a pretty nice use of the tech!

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          I’m kind of considering getting one, probably as a second phone to swap my sim card into for occasional use

          The e ink is a big draw for me, as is the physical keyboard, not to mention the headphone jack and expandable storage.

          With the e-ink comes good battery life, they’re claiming potentially 4 days from what I can see. I like the idea of that for travel, where I might be spending long hours on a bus, train, plane, car, walking around town all day, maybe even camping somewhere where it may not always be convenient to charge my phone.

          E-ink is also easier to read in direct sunlight without a glare, as someone with a lot of outdoor hobbies that appeals to me. (Although for the same reason I do also wish it had a higher IP rating, and maybe an impact resistance rating as well)

          I dont tend to play a lot of games or watch movies on my phone to begin with, so I’m not so much interested in that aspect of it encouraging mindfulness, but for people who do struggle with that temptation to spend too much time on tiktok forget hooked on stupid games, I can see this helping them to kick that habit since e ink isn’t really great for those kinds of uses, while not needing to totally unplug from the more utilitarian uses for a smartphone like navigation, different messaging apps, email, 2 factor authenticator apps, etc.

          I’m not rushing out to buy one, but I might consider grabbing one if I get a good deal somewhere, or if it has some staying power I might consider picking up the next gen version of it.

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            You bring up really, really points, and have piqued my interest in the device. The thing holding me back (besides OP’s DOA :( ) is the security updates. How long will their OS truly be supported? They claim 5 years, but they’re a young company and can’t actually promise that. Is their bootloader unlocked? Because if so, I can try and load a custom OS, once their security updates are done. This last bit is what’s held me back from most of these eink devices, actually. Maybe the display will become cheap enough that I can buy one, and outfit my own device… one day.

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          Mostly the e-ink display and the QWERTY keyboard.

          By its nature, it’s not great for doom scrolling, TikTok, or videos (the major time sinks with most phones). Those aren’t my use-cases anyway; I’m more of a reader than a watcher so I figured this would be like a supercharged version of my Kobo (which I love) that has a physical keyboard (which I have missed terribly in smartphones).

          I’m rocking an aging Cat S22 Flip right now and have been trying to figure out what to replace it with. The Minimal Phone seemed like exactly what I wanted. Sad that it arrived DOA and am probably not going to bother replacing it; waiting weeks for something that arrives DOA is a hard thing to recover from.

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            Oh your use case is awesome, actually. I bet there are good epub readers on Android, which would make this phone perfect for that use case. It is super sad it was doa. Hopefully they’ll honor a replacement (faster than your original order), and you can start truly enjoying it.

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              I have a Hisense A5 that’s a crap phone, but Cantook side loaded and it’s the best e-reader I’ve ever owned, bar none. I can use it for podcasts too, although I usually just use my regular phone for that these days.

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                  Cantook used to be called Aldiko, and it was literally the first ebook Reader I ever got for Android. I don’t know if it’s the best, but it opens epubs and lets me set dark mode and use the volume buttons as page turn, and doesn’t gum up e-ink with animations, so it’s ideal for the Hisense. I don’t know why it only has 2/5.

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              Yeah, I have a ticket in with support but haven’t heard back yet. I did ask specifically about the turnaround time for a replacement. Hopefully that’s a reasonable amount of time. I definitely don’t want $400+ tied up until the next batch ships in September.

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                Oof. September? I really hope you get it before then! I wonder how many people had this doa issue with this batch. Maybe there’s an issue with that manufacturer. Not really something you can control or probably find out, but it would be interesting to know.

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                  I honestly don’t think they’d tell me, but I’d also be interested to know. Fingers crossed they have some stock on hand for the occasional replacement.

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          The e-ink display and expandable storage set it apart, but “minimal” can be achieved with some small effort by the end user of any smartphone. The idea that this phone will work magic for you and free up time in your day is just marketing. If you want your current phone to do less, then just uninstall the apps that are sucking up your time.

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            It does have a physical keyboard, too. Sadly can’t give it much of a review given the circumstances, but it does have a good feel and seems like it would be pleasant to type on.

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              That’s true, and I overlooked that. I miss having a physical keyboard. I don’t want to shit on your purchase, if it does what you want, then great, it just doesn’t bring anything to the table for me.

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            If you want your current phone to do less, then just uninstall the apps that are sucking up your time.

            Yeah, that was my thought, too, and why I missed the phones point. But OP pointed out that they wanted to use it as an ereader (like their current Kobo), and that use case seems absolutely perfect for this phone. As a magical device that gives you back time, this device looks to be nothing but marketing. But as a combination true eink ereader and smart-enough phone, this device seems perfect.

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              You missed the physical keyboard. I’d sell my left kidney for a physical keyboard. I’ve just had to correct three words in the previous sentence because my keyboard “corrected” them even though autocorrect is switched off.

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              Yeah, I have a Boox color tablet that I use for reading books and comics, but I also take A LOT of notes on it since I can use handwriting. This phone doesn’t bring anything to the table for me, but if there is a use for OP I’m not going to say it’s a bad purchase. I just don’t like the marketing behind it.

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                  Yeah the marketing for it was lost on me. I already digitally detoxed last year when I switched to the flip phone I’m currently using, so I ignored the sales pitch and just looked at it from the cool hardware perspective and mostly reasonable price.

                  Credit where it’s due, though: I tried unsuccessfully to just uninstall the time sink apps from my regular smartphone and always ended up just reinstalling them. It took using a device that couldn’t feasibly run those (plus a weaning-off period) for me to fully let go. Seems like that is what the marketing is trying to target.

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                    I wish I could go to a standard dumb phone, but I rely on communication apps that just don’t work on them :/ Kudos to you for being able to do that!

                    Yeah, the discipline part is super difficult for most people (myself included). I had to give myself a larger hurdle than just the uninstall… I deleted my accounts lol I understand that’s not feasible for most people, but I was desperate to get off of them, so I took desperate measures. Devices similar to the one you got are perfect for allowing people to detox from the mobile aspect of those apps, while still allowing us to use the services on the desktop. Then, when the detox period is up and you’re fully off the addiction, you can get the standard phone back.

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                  Yeah, I got the note air 4c and I can confirm it is amazing. However, it’s expensive. I don’t really have money to throw around like that, but I did some extra work and grabbed it. It’s phenomenal and I have no regrets. Great for reading, great for note taking, horrible for watching videos :) If its something that you’ll use, its worth every penny.

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                    It is not cheap, but it looks amazing! That’s my dilemma, I’m not sure if I’d use it enough to justify the price for me. But I really want to haha