It’s for my mother, who so far cannot stand LibreOffice.

  • Panda (he/him)@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    10 months ago

    While I personally love LibreOffice, I get why your mom might not. It’s super easy:

    1. Download and install Office
    2. run irm https://massgrave.dev/get | iex in Powershell and follow the instructions
    3. Profit!

    What doesn’t she like about LibreOffice, out of curiosity? It’s easy to make the layout like Office (View > User Interface > Tabbed) if that’s her problem - I felt the exact same way, but the second I found that out how to do that, I never went back.

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      I use libre office regularly and the moment I open ms office I breathe back fresh air since it just has a ton of features

      But most importantly it reads docx natively which is used by all the regular ppl around which I often need for absolute compatibility that libreoffice can’t perfect most of the time

      But still using libre office because it’s oss and because it doesnt require downloading a 5 OR 6 GB INSTALLATION FILE over my 100kibps average connection… And because its cool, I hope they improve it more and more as they are doing all the time

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        Man everyone I work with uses PDF and I have to do some janky shit to fill it out and sign it. Not that I would want docx either…

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        10 months ago

        Massgrave is a tool that can create legit (oem) keys for windows and office out of thin air*

        • it’s not literally creating them from nothing, it’s using a system Ms themselves run to get working keys. Evidently they don’t have a huge problem with it.
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          10 months ago

          Turns out the powershell step is enough to get 97% of users to shell out cash.

          And also, the biggest source of revenue is institutions who either will pay for the enterprise license, or can be sued for a good payday if they try to pirate.

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          10 months ago

          Yeah please teach me how you found it so I can be as resourceful as you. I’m not really interested in your self deprecation. Thank you.

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            10 months ago

            Not OP, but I’m aware of it just from seeing it mentioned in threads like this. There might be a community or list available showing all these cool things but a lot of the time it just goes around by word-of-mouth.

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            10 months ago

            :(

            But, seriously, I’m pretty obsessed with piracy stuff and have spent an insane amount of time poring over lists like FMHY so it’s like trivia to me now

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      10 months ago

      Done this a while ago for my brother who needed Office for work but isn’t as tech minded as I am. It’s honestly a fantastic tool, kudos to the creator!

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    It might sound like a pretty obvious thing, but have you tried changing the tools into the “Tabbed ribbon” that office uses instead of the classic old 90s organization scheme in options ?

    I have come to notice that when people who don’t really work with computers very well, in particular boomers, say that they can stand LibreOffice, they mean they don’t like the layout of the tools, because they can’t find anything they need. I suppose they just got used to where everything is with modern office.

    Just change it and see if she will like it better. Usually solves it for the boomers i help. Nothing is holding LibreOffice back more than their default layout scheme. They really don’t know their target audience’s pain points AT ALL. Just goes to show why you need to study your users using the product without being explained anything.

    I don’t get why their default is a layout that has been outdated for 24 years. Nostalgia or what? Only really old people who used computers in the 90s a lot will intuitively find it useful.

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    10 months ago

    Download office from massgrave.dev and activate with the power shell activator. Permanent activation as easy as it gets.

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      10 months ago

      yea can barely call it ‘effort’ more like accidentally tripped, pressed enter and now office 365 is installed ;D

      • /home/pineapplelover@lemm.ee
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        There was an article that caught Microsoft’s own IT support use this script to activate a customer’s computer so I guess Microsoft approves of it.

        Edit: sauce

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    10 months ago

    You can change libreoffice to have the ribbon and act more like ms office.

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    10 months ago

    You could tell your mom the real price of MS office. She might suddenly stand LibreOffice just fine.

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      10 months ago

      i’m always amused by the reaction of my friends when i tell them that office costs $10 per month. They are all always “whaaaaat?? This POS is this expensive??”

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        Screw word. I’m studying Software Development, but I have to write all these management reports for various classes. I’m just writing them in LaTeX now, so it feels like I’m coding while I’m writing a paper. Implement some new fancy features every time that I than have to debug like I do with code.

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    10 months ago

    At this point I think it’s more beneficial for you to move to using LibreOffice. It’s a better to spend your time getting used to that, instead of trying to obtain MS Office.

    I’m not saying that LibreOffice is as good, but it’s good enough.

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      10 months ago

      There is some functionality not available through the web apps. If you work in a corporate setting, the odds are really good that the web apps won’t be adequate for you.

      One example that comes to mind is not me of our clients that has us file a report once per quarter. The report is an Excel spreadsheet that can be filled but not edited. The submission demands that the file be then password edit protected and uploaded along with the password. You cannot secure files that way via the web app. We literally keep a Windows VM with the a copy of the desktop office suite, just for this client’s quarterly form.

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    10 months ago

    key resellers have office 2021 pro plus (the non subscription one) for $30.00ish (earlier versions are even cheaper) and that is what I recommend if you absolutely have to get office.

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      10 months ago

      imho between the two options, the more ethical is to pirate rather than supporting a shady key reseller. Anyway microsoft gets the exact same amount of money either if you purchase a stolen key from msdn or you install a pirated copy activated via mas

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      Considering the grey market is filled with dodgy keys, it’d be better to just pirate, especially when there are easy and safe ways to do it like with MAS

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          Good resellers do, but I think my point still stands - why risk any of that when Microsoft doesn’t get your money either way?
          MAS/Massgrave works effectively, is open source, is well-documented, and literally free.

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    10 months ago

    @Reverendender

    OnlyOffice Desktop Editors…

    Simpler interface but lacking more advanced features of MS Office or Libre. It has the features 90% of users actually use though.

    Nearly perfect DOCX formatting compatibility. The only thing I have ever noticed when collaborating with Word users is the bullet symbols on list items may be different on my end.

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      Agreed. I really tried to like Libre/OpenOffice over the years but it never felt right. OnlyOffice really hits the spot for me.

      I don’t use Windows much any more but I was happy with the discounted student version of Office 2016, afaik the last perpetual license.

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        Onlyoffice sucks very bad with macros in my experience, lacks some advanced functions, and infuriatingly doesn’t seem to have options search, but other than that it’s fantastic, very intuitive, ergonomic and sleek option.

        My own daily driver.

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          10 months ago

          If I’m doing anything substantial, calculation-wise, I use openpyxl.

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              You might also find the Python library pandas useful. Its “DataFrames” can mirror your excel data 1:1 and you have convenience methods like to_excel(). Easy to combine with numpy for performant matrix math.

              XLSX just becomes a container for storing/sharing your data, and while Python is used for analysis. I would use matplotlib for plotting rather than embedding in the sheet.