• sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    14 hours ago

    Mamdani’s ideological approach may terrify some employers… the ones that are currently massively dodging taxes, paying way, way lower taxes, getting all kinds of tax exemptions and deductions, getting all kinds of no strings attached subsidies… from actual taxpayers.

    The idiot capital class is obviously propogandizing in overdrive mode, but they also seem to be largely legitimately delusional about realizing how astonishingly subsidized they are by public financing, so that they can concentrate private profits.

    ‘But it would be impossible to run my business without training wheels and floaties and a helmet all provided to me by the government!!!’

    Ok fuckstick, don’t care, sounds like a skill issue to me if you can’t main as a capitalist without a bunch of handicaps on, either get gud or stop pretending you deserve your spot on the ‘free market’ league leaderboard.

  • DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works
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    1 day ago

    Higher Income people actually prefer the Socialist lmfao

    Its somehow the poor people that get gaslighted into voting for conservatism

    Ironic

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      23 hours ago

      I imagine the difference in the cost of living between NYC and upstate New York compensates for that? Median income alone isn’t a super useful metric

      Brain fart, disregard

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        23 hours ago

        I think you’re a little confused.

        NYC = New York City

        This is a Mayoral Primary Election. Every voter here is a resident of New York City

        Mayor = Leader of the Executive Branch of a city.

        For NY State, the Leader of the Executive Branch would be called the Governor

  • Yareckt@lemmynsfw.com
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    1 day ago

    This is not specific to this post but can we please not hype the guy up too much before we see what he actually does when in office? From all the news coverage I’m getting a ‘He is the Messiah! We are rescued!’ vibe. He may still bend the knee to the rich once he has power.

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    1 day ago

    imho that’s what connects all the right, from finance bros to masculinists to racists : they’re terrified. Of change, of difference. Of others. They’re deathly afraid and it explains every action they take, every word they say.

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      15 hours ago

      It’s worse than that. I’m affraid of these things sometimes too. They are affraid of being affraid. They can’t handle it, they can’t admit it and they do everything ti disguise it. It’s a very primal emotion

  • katy ✨@piefed.blahaj.zone
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    1 day ago

    the scariest part about tax the millionaires policies for millionaires is that we did it in massachusetts and the outcome was that it worked and raised billions for the state

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    1 day ago

    We’re the taxpayers that want “free” health care while simultaneously paying taxes. The Right somehow thinks we’re too stupid to know we pay taxes that makes these things happen. Heck…we want people to have nice things.

    Meanwhile the Right doesn’t want to pay taxes yet somehow expects to get social services like paved roads or safe drinking water. I’d mention schools or health care but the republicans clearly DGAF about those things.

  • Prehensile_cloaca @lemm.ee
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    This is very Boomers thinking everyone is still a 16 year old Millennial.

    Boomer brains stuck in 1998, and it shows.

  • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    1 day ago

    They don’t believe anyone under a certain income pays taxes. “Taxpayer” just means “upper income tax bracket” in their mind.

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      13 hours ago

      Euphemisms like that and “job creators”, “wealth creators” are an instant tip-off that whoever’s talking is a weaselly venal slimeball.

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      1 day ago

      Also brown people don’t pay taxes in their fantasy world. It’s just another racist dog whistle.

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      Oddly enough, when it comes to less dense suburbs with richer people in them, the cost to the city is always more than those people pay in taxes. They pay more but they’re actually using poorer people’s taxes to pay for their shitty “neighbourhoods”, in quotes because the word implies a level of community they could only dream of.

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        Okay, they “don’t pay taxes”, but the government still takes the money and then returns it if they ask for it (i.e. file a tax return). That isn’t quite the same as not paying.

        Also, you have to be stupidly poor to get all of your taxes returned.

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        Even if you discount all other forms of taxation, and only focus on income taxes, the sentiment is irrelevant to this particular vote.

        His support appears to be concentrated in the middle class. (Median household income in NYC is about 80k, right about the peak of his vote share)

      • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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        People with great wealth don’t pay taxes. They employ loopholes only available to the wealthy. Btw, almost every state has sales tax, you dipshit.

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        They certainly pay sales taxes, possibly property taxes too, they probably have to pay fines because the cops love to prey on the poor, and there’s also fees to use government services. That’s all taxes.

        But there’s this concentrated attempt to denigrate people with lower income as useless eaters that don’t contribute to society, and so they don’t think any of that counts.

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          They’re just stupid and meant folks who make millions and billions don’t pay their share of taxes

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            1 day ago

            The poor pay the largest portion of their wages in taxes. They also benefit society far beyond any other social group. It’s the wealthy that take the most from the rest of us and pay almost nothing back.

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            1 day ago

            taxes the government steals from us

            No it’s not the government that is stealing from us its the Uber wealthy that use our tax money (that should be going to the greater good of the citizens of the country) for their own gain.

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              So I’m aware there is a right-libertarian argument at work here that frames all taxes, always, as “stealing”. However, there’s an argument here that can be used along more democratic socialist lines.

              Taxation in representative democracy is legitimate when the democracy itself lives up to the terms. We have come to some kind of consensus as a society on the level of taxation and where that money should go. When we do that, and we say the road is “our road”, we mean that in a literal way. A part of the fruits of our labor were diverted to build that road, and we get a say in how it works.

              The US is not a democracy that lives up to the term. “Taxation is theft” is correct in this context.

          • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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            Right, that’s the point of the “taxpayer” dog whistle. It trains people to think that poor people don’t pay taxes, and implies they’re lesser members of society because of it.

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    1 day ago

    “employers and taxpayers” is like “job creators”.

    They don’t want to say “the ultra wealthy” because that would be too accurate for the owner of the site, who is an ultra wealthy person.