So you’re not qualified to give advice on these situations, but you advise not calling the cops…?
Look it’s not that I don’t enjoy the debate equivalent of shooting fish in a barrel, but my point is that you don’t have any idea what people should do instead. Nobody does, because there isn’t another option. So why not stop being such a smug little prick, stop using other people’s tragic deaths as an (attempted) mic-dropping soapbox, and start thinking about what you say before you comment.
Wow. That’s pretty direct. You can fuck off. I know that cops are not the right solution to mental health crises. I am a person with mental health issues who has had cops called to “save” me and was lucky that it went well. Why don’t you affix your mouth to my asshole because I know that cops are not the right solution to a person having a crisis while I choose not to suggest my lay advice about something that is pretty important. Fuck you.
Yeah, but you’re offering advice while at the same time talking about how you’re taking the intellectually righteous option by not offering your lay advice. You can just state your opinion. But you’re trying to come in and present your opinion as absolute fact on an issue where you’re unequivocally wrong. Not about the fact that the system is broken or the cops aren’t by and large evil bastards, but in implying there’s another option people can choose, which I fucking wish was the case.
Listen. All I’m hoping to have happen here is that you’ll recognize that nobody, not one single person, calls the cops on a family member because that’s the easy option, or because they think it’s even slightly a good option. They call them because their kid is having a manic episode but this time he somehow found a gun and is taking his cousin hostage so they can go get taco bell. Or because they’re screaming that if someone tries to stop them cutting themselves they’ll kill them - and they’re already down to the bone on their thighs.
Those aren’t made up examples, those are real mental health calls from the last month that we had to address. The first one, the police were called and managed to talk him down. I hate that I assume he wasn’t shot because he’s white, but that’s absolutely the reason. He might get help in the next three months. Until then he’s in jail. The second one, the paramedics were called. They tried to talk her down, deescalate like any sane person wants them to do, but it didn’t work. So, they called the police & eventually between two cops and two medics they managed to restrain and sedate her. She’ll live, somehow, but before they called for help she’d stabbed her mom and now she’s being prosecuted for battery. Which is just… awful.
I’m pissed off at you because you’re oversimplifying the most unpredictable situation anyone might have to experience in their lives with a patronizing, moralizing quip that is so detached from the reality of the situations people are put in that it’s actually kind of stunning. People have one life-line, and it’s the cops. They never, ever, ever choose that option lightly, and they are absolutely aware of the potential consequences. But sometimes people need fucking help, and it’s the old “lesser of two evils” choice. It fucking sucks. Maybe it’ll get better, but I think we both know it won’t.
(Seriously, if you ever want to get absolutely beyond pissed off at how broken the system really is, dm me. I have shitloads of stories on how this system is much more fucked up than you think. Like, even if you think it’s fucked up, it’s so much worse than you’d believe. Ask about how many jails there are, that’s a classic!)
(Also, give me that asshole. I will blow you up like a Sonic OC and carry you around like a balloon on a string.)
Ah, the old “taking your ball and going home” approach. Sometimes it really does work to get a rise out of the other person. Hopefully that’s not what you’re going for, though. It’s kinda sad if you pin that much self worth to getting the last word in an internet argument you claim to be too busy to read… not that I’d know anything about that. Really selling your argument here though friendo. I do recommend reading that wall of text though, it might actually be useful to you. You know. If you’re not too busy being so cool and uninvested.
Sure but what specifically?
I’m not qualified to give advice on how to handle those situations. I only know that calling the cops is not it.
So you’re not qualified to give advice on these situations, but you advise not calling the cops…?
Look it’s not that I don’t enjoy the debate equivalent of shooting fish in a barrel, but my point is that you don’t have any idea what people should do instead. Nobody does, because there isn’t another option. So why not stop being such a smug little prick, stop using other people’s tragic deaths as an (attempted) mic-dropping soapbox, and start thinking about what you say before you comment.
Wow. That’s pretty direct. You can fuck off. I know that cops are not the right solution to mental health crises. I am a person with mental health issues who has had cops called to “save” me and was lucky that it went well. Why don’t you affix your mouth to my asshole because I know that cops are not the right solution to a person having a crisis while I choose not to suggest my lay advice about something that is pretty important. Fuck you.
Yeah, but you’re offering advice while at the same time talking about how you’re taking the intellectually righteous option by not offering your lay advice. You can just state your opinion. But you’re trying to come in and present your opinion as absolute fact on an issue where you’re unequivocally wrong. Not about the fact that the system is broken or the cops aren’t by and large evil bastards, but in implying there’s another option people can choose, which I fucking wish was the case.
Listen. All I’m hoping to have happen here is that you’ll recognize that nobody, not one single person, calls the cops on a family member because that’s the easy option, or because they think it’s even slightly a good option. They call them because their kid is having a manic episode but this time he somehow found a gun and is taking his cousin hostage so they can go get taco bell. Or because they’re screaming that if someone tries to stop them cutting themselves they’ll kill them - and they’re already down to the bone on their thighs.
Those aren’t made up examples, those are real mental health calls from the last month that we had to address. The first one, the police were called and managed to talk him down. I hate that I assume he wasn’t shot because he’s white, but that’s absolutely the reason. He might get help in the next three months. Until then he’s in jail. The second one, the paramedics were called. They tried to talk her down, deescalate like any sane person wants them to do, but it didn’t work. So, they called the police & eventually between two cops and two medics they managed to restrain and sedate her. She’ll live, somehow, but before they called for help she’d stabbed her mom and now she’s being prosecuted for battery. Which is just… awful.
I’m pissed off at you because you’re oversimplifying the most unpredictable situation anyone might have to experience in their lives with a patronizing, moralizing quip that is so detached from the reality of the situations people are put in that it’s actually kind of stunning. People have one life-line, and it’s the cops. They never, ever, ever choose that option lightly, and they are absolutely aware of the potential consequences. But sometimes people need fucking help, and it’s the old “lesser of two evils” choice. It fucking sucks. Maybe it’ll get better, but I think we both know it won’t.
(Seriously, if you ever want to get absolutely beyond pissed off at how broken the system really is, dm me. I have shitloads of stories on how this system is much more fucked up than you think. Like, even if you think it’s fucked up, it’s so much worse than you’d believe. Ask about how many jails there are, that’s a classic!)
(Also, give me that asshole. I will blow you up like a Sonic OC and carry you around like a balloon on a string.)
I don’t have time to read a wall of text. My answer stands. Don’t call cops for mental health issues. Goodbye.
Ah, the old “taking your ball and going home” approach. Sometimes it really does work to get a rise out of the other person. Hopefully that’s not what you’re going for, though. It’s kinda sad if you pin that much self worth to getting the last word in an internet argument you claim to be too busy to read… not that I’d know anything about that. Really selling your argument here though friendo. I do recommend reading that wall of text though, it might actually be useful to you. You know. If you’re not too busy being so cool and uninvested.