Codecs, left the chat and everybody shut up.
VLC is not script-frendly. mpv is the goat. You can even watch videos from YouTube and maybe from somewhere else.
I was team VLC for certain things it could do, and then I found that MPV could do all those things and more. Crazy how versatile it is.
There are people who like VLC, but for me personally, MPV has a much cleaner interface, better configuration options, and when it comes to streaming video, MPV absolutely destroys VLC (especially when changing playback speed while the video is playing – VLC has the audio cut out for several seconds and MPV doesn’t)
Nothing streams better than RealPlayer
Now that takes me back
I am glad both MPV and VLC exist.
I switched to MPV recently for the same reasons. If it had support for playing disc media it would be the absolute king of video players imo.
It has support for it tho.
If so, then it definitely doesn’t make it as obvious as VLC does. but good to know I suppose
edit: it only plays whatever the largest file it can find on the disc is, no menu / iso support. womp womp
FFmpeg enters the chat
Yeah, guess where vlc gets all that muscle…
I thought it was libvlc that covers that but no, it is indeed libavcodec which is part of the ffmpeg project. Does anyone here know the relationship between libvlc and libavcodec?
FFmpeg is one of libvlc’s backends. A lot of stuff vlc can decode without calling ffmpeg.
libvlc uses libavcodec
VLC relays on ffmpeg for a lot of video decoding, as do lots of other media programs. Go look up the legal notice on your TV and there’s a good chance the ffmpeg licensing information is in there.
If you look up the dependencies or legal notices for anything that does anything related to video, audio or maybe even images, it’s very likely that it uses ffmpeg in some way.
Interesting there isn’t more info on the team behind it.
Followed by MPV doing the same
Whenever someone ask me media player for Linux I suggest MPV but for Binbows I suggest VLC. I don’t know why?
MPV.net for Windows is great.
I’m in the MPC-HC gang on Windows. Just so much more practical than other players. The main selling point was that full-screen the controls go away once you move the cursor off them, it was amazing. And no waiting for subs to be processed like VLC had to back then, never turned back so don’t know if that is still a thing.
BE > HC
the main selling point of mpchc is madvr. there’s basically no other competitors that utilize the GPU to make the media your watching better on the same level as madvr.
IIRC VLC on Windows uses it’s own included ffmpeg libraries for decoding so you don’t need to mess around with Windows codecs.
I do the same because VLC has an installer on Windows while MPV you have to manually extract from a compressed folder and then run the install script from command line
I want installers to die, portable is the future
My download came with a .bat executable
I use mpv but the configuration is a big pain. Just try overriding a subtitle font in mpv, there are config files to change that don’t even exist by default and they live in different places depending on mpv version and it’s a huge mess.
I still do it because it’s lightweight and for some reason has better performance for me than VLC.
ffplay
I’ve moved on. VLC used to be great, but my go to now is definitely MPC-BE.
This is news to me. What happened with VLC?
I don’t know what they mean, but to me it didn’t become less great, just MPV (based players) are often better. They are more customizable (even scriptable) and better with the resource usage.
Hummm, Don’t get me wrong I like the command line when I work on my GUI-less server, but a video player to run through the command line on a daily drive desktop with GUI and everything?
This seems a bit overkill and useless no? I mean when I’m on my desktop I just want to click on my media file and launch it right away.
Maybe I’m not the target audience and it’s focus is more entitled to people working in the video industry and needs more granular tweaking with specific media files? Scripts?
Or Am I missing something here?
I actually found a file format that VLC won’t play, .MJP, yanked off of our network’s security camera system. It requires the security company’s proprietary video player.
what do you see from running binwalk on one of these files?
I don’t know what that is - I’ll have to look into it on Monday.
Very high level: it’s a program to quickly find files within files and it runs on pretty much any OS that exists
VLC the undisputed champ
I just discovered something that VLC REALLY didn’t like to play. A 4K50fps JPEG2000 YUV444 12bit lossless ~48 GB video that was only 1 minute long.
To be fair the bitrate of the video is insane at ~5700 Mbit/s. The bitrate is so insane that you should really consider using an NVME drive for playback.
MPC-HC could kinda play it but only with extreme stutter and lag. My CPU (Ryzen 9 5900x) was completely maxed out.
I think you need hardware acceleration for a video like this.
Forget playback. How was that video file recorded? How do you even store data that fast, let alone encode it?
1 Terrabyte RAM with a 64GB RAM Drive perhaps?
You can read more about why and how it was made here: https://www.svt.se/open/en/content/
The only place I could find where I could kinda play the video is inside Davinci resolve, it doesn’t look how I would like it to.
Ohhhhhh. It’s a video decoder torture test. “If your app can play this it can play anything” sort of deal. That makes sense.
Also makes sense that VLC puked.
I think it’s more of a test for encoding, not sure if you are really supposed to try and play it in an app.
I think you need hardware acceleration for a video like this.
ok but why would anyone have a video like that
Maybe some kind of super slow motion high resolution type thing?
but if you’re gonna watch it in slow motion anyways then why isn’t it saved as a slow video that is much longer?
Yeah I could definitely see this for slo-mo and data recording in an actual laboratory setting that requires it to be as accurate as humanly possible. Idk if this is a standard though I’m not a scientist.
1 Terrabyte RAM with a 64GB RAM Drive perhaps?
You can read more about why and how it was made here: https://www.svt.se/open/en/content/
It’s basically intended to test encoding and stuff like that.
Where can I try this
Here: https://www.svt.se/open/en/content/
I downloaded “natural complexity” or something like that. Unfortunately FTP downloads are limited to 100 Mbit/s so downloads can take a while. Imo they should make a torrent.
Vlc has hardware acceleration afaik. I think its more a case of the ffmpeg codec not supporting it yet because what the actual fuck haha
Haha, that’s fair 😂
Yeah, I think it’s a good idea to try ffplay if VLC (or mpv) fail.
I get similar results there to MPC-HC. I unfortunately haven’t been able to get proper hardware acceleration to work anywhere.
JPEG2000 = not lossless
JPEG2000 supports both. That’s why I specifically said that the video is lossless
Right! Sorry, I assumed this was regular JPEG
vlc can even play incomplete video files - it’ll just play the parts of it, that will play.
It’ll even play videos that are actively downloading
^ Found a fellow old school torrent user 😆
I once thought of a movie while coughing into a microphone. I opened the recorded cough with VLC and it played the movie.
You don’t even need to cough with the right setting on. That’s just a safety feature for the uninitiated, so that they don’t submit freaked out bug reports.
I use the SMplayer, which can play also almost everything
Big fan of media player classic / MPC-HC for many years now.
Same, I’d take it any day over VLC because of native dark mode. VLC’s themes are janky and weird-looking.
Is there an updated fork with security patches? Android disclosed so many media vulnerabilities in the last 5 years that I don’t trust unupdated media players anymore
I’ve never stopped getting updates.I’ve been using K-Lite Codec Pack since Kazaa lite was relevant. It has always come with updated MPC-HC. Looks like the GitHub is here:
https://github.com/clsid2/mpc-hc/releases
MPC-HC with madVR and a beefy GPU for the upscaling algorithms is godlike.
That’s a fork and it looks nice, thanks for sharing
Also MPC-BE because of nice support with dolby digital stuff lol
I was missing Codecs in my Linux install. VLC couldn’t play a single file
Try the flatpak, it should come with all the codecs
Reinstall it.
Mpv is better
It runs better, but VLC is much more user friendly
shrugs idk. Vlc has more features. Not sure I’d call it easier.
Tell your parents to set mpv to loop a video and see how it goes
Such beings do not deserve to use computers. We’re talking about humans here, not our monkey ancestors.
Me opening /dev/urandom as a raw video stream to watch some nice relaxing RGB static.
Weird. Anytime I do that I get Rick rolled.
