Image finally uploaded. Sorry about that.
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What am I missing, hasn’t this been around for like months and months now?
Microsoft is is bed with Google now,
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Edge has been Chromium based for a while now. Hell, a lot of the 365 stuff will only work in Edge or Chrome.
It’s wild how corporations are so openly cool with paying license fees to give everything away to Microsoft.
I would have told them to pound sand as soon as they tried to push the 365 and Azure shit if I was a business.
a lot of the 365 stuff will only work in Edge or Chrome.
Can you give a few examples?
Anecdotally, I use 365 on Firefox at work and haven’t noticed browser specific issues yet.
Trying to sign into work stuff will throw MCAS unless I’m in Edge or Chrome.
Gross. So they’ve swiss cheesed themselves for Microsoft too…
photograph of monitor
Does OP know about screenshots (PrtScn or Snipping Tool through WindowsKey-Shift-S) or alt text? 🤦
Does it matter that much in the context?
alt text for accessibility?
That one’s fair
That one’s fair
ShareX is the way
Super key*
Right. And then you take a picture of the printout of the emailed PDF on a wooden table, we know the old ways.
i haven’t worked in a business envorenment in a while does this come before or after you fax it to your recipient
Both is safer, but it’s best to check with your manager.
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Mint yes*, Vivaldi no.
* if it comes preinstalled. 99% of device owners would be overwhelmed by doing that themselves.
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That’s exactly what I’m typing this on.
People will complain about everything, but never just switch to Firefox, huh? You can’t be helped then. There is just the one browser (and a couple of forks of it).
You’re making a lot of assumptions here. I use Firefox. But business do not.
Often people have jobs which involve computers, which force them to use whatever software the 90 year old running the company thinks is appropriate.
That wouldn’t help anything since the problem is Microsoft forcing Edge
One could Possibly switch to Linux or other non-Microsoft OS to fix that
This is literally the standard Google sync account stuff in every Chromium browser. Don’t want it? Pick a browser that isn’t Chrome based. That basically leaves Firefox or a handful of brand new alpha buggy browsers no one has heard of with dubious update potential.
With a Microsoft privacy statement, and only available in Edge as of last week?
It’s a screen made by Microsoft to match their aesthetic and settings pages, of course. But it’s the exact same Google account sync system that every Chromium has, unless you’re specifically using an unGoogled version.
How can we be sure this is genuine? I can see there is an opt out option. Thats very unMicrosoft like
😭
What’s the opt-out? “Continue without”? Same options as the ms account screen before it.
Try and continue without a Microsoft account when installing windows 11
Possible on pro (at least, for now). But, not on home last time I checked (which, admittedly, has been about a year). My daily non-work computer is not, and will never be, windows. But work is work.
Indian CEOs at their finest.
Racism intensifies
If these two companies are in bed with each other, they are hate-fucking each other though. Carnal pleasure but no love lost.
I don’t find this that infuriating. And you have choices to run a different browser. Granted, most of them are chromium based. Edge’s only use case is to download a Firefox fork and/or a better chromium that is neither Edge nor Chrome.
True or not, I’m one email away from total freedom.
Just wonder about anti spam measures.
True or not, I’m one email away from total freedom.
uh can you expand on this?
I have 1 gmail, and their anti spam has usually been very effective, I have to find some other email with an effective anti spam before jumping the boat.
do you have another email like proton or just your Gmail
Yeah 1 proton which is very clean but I use it only for serious things, I need another one for all the “daily crap”.
ah thank you for the expanded info. I’m in a similar situation and would like alternatives…
I wonder if it’s an early response to the talk of breaking up Google and Chrome. MS gets more people onboarded to Edge and Google still gets your browser level metrics.
Booted my desktop since my work computers windows and I game mostly on my steam deck, and holy shit is Manjaro fast as hell compared to windows in 2025. Like I’m so used to clicking and waiting and in Manjaro you click and it’s just there.
Man fuck windows.
Yeah, just started using W11 for work and it’s insane how often I need to wait for character to buffer in after I typed something.
I shouldn’t be faster than my computer in this day and age, and yet here we are.
I’m currently horrified how my (IT illiterate) employer said we need to update all our 20+ laptops to Win11 now. Consumer laptops that barely run Win10.
To be clear, I’m not the IT guy here, though I do sometimes help out.
Same boat here. W10 is EOL. A crapton of good-enough laptops are about to go into the landfills all over your world. What a disgrace.
Yeah. Or they’ll go through with it, and then realize later that they “need” to buy new ones.
Maybe I can still convince them to switch to Linux. We’re not dependent on any MS or Windows only products.
I mean this in the most sincere way possible: I hope you succeed in this endeavor.
Edit: Autocorrect went crazy lol
You do though. W10 EOL is October, and you’re not gonna move to Linux, sadly.
I’m somewhat confused on the phrasing of this headline. “more OS integrated than Mozilla was?”. Is that meant to be more OS integrated than IE was? To my knowledge there’s some grey areas around mozilla’s actions recently, but I’ve never heard of them integrating into the OS.
But yeah I gotta agree on the core… If you don’t want want big tech spying on you… getting away from windows is necessary.
Google’s MS deal makes it more integrated into the Windows [OS], than Google was integrated into Mozilla’s FF browser. Odd phrasing, I’ll give you that lol
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This isn’t cooperation, this is rivalry. The point is for you to use Edge instead of Chrome.
Just another skirmish in the war for what matters most: which tech-giant is the default choice.
Yeah exactly this. But the bandwagon has left the station at this point.
I’m sure that’s an end goal here, but logging into a Google account through Edge, integrates it into the Windows OS. Sort of like (but not as intensely as) logging into a Microsoft account through Edge. So, while, yes, it’s end goal is through rivalry, the method is a partnership.
I’m not sure it’s a partnership. It looks and reads like the standard authorized data sharing setup. Anyone can configure that. It uses an open protocol that’s standardized, let’s users control the information shared with explicit consent and is basically what you want out of any entity that holds all your crap. The only thing it’s really lacking is a standard protocol for sharing the actual data.
Linux distributions have it.
Microsoft using Google’s public documented API is a long way from a partnership.
You log into your Google account so Microsoft can take your browser data into Edge, especially the bookmarks and passwords parts so that you automatically sign in to your favourite websites, when in Edge. Microsoft also offers to copy data from your Chrome profile (on your computer, do not signing in to Google) on a periodic interval, so that any new data that comes in Chrome (bookmarks etc.) shows up in Edge. The whole deal is that Microsoft copies your Chrome experience into Edge so you won’t notice that Microsoft in a random update changed your default browser to Edge again. Google don’t want this as it’s only Microsoft that stands to gain anything from this. Microsoft is using all kinds of tactics to gain more users to Edge and hope these users will use to Bing to search.
Edge is a Chromium browser. This is the standard Chrome sync stuff from nearly every one of those.
which tech-giant is the default choice
Meanwhile, on Lemmy, I suffer under the tyranny of Big Penguin
They don’t want you to know you can just take the source code home, they can’t arrest you.
Big penguin is no joke. Just last week a penguin busted down my front door and forced me to compile my own kernel from source!
Did he have a beard?
Did he tell you he used Arch?
Arch users rarely compile their own kernels, silly.
I use Arch btw.
I use Gentoo, btw.
Yes, I build the kernel myself.
Heyoo!
You mean, chromium-based browser vs. chromium-based browser?
I know, it’s about data mining (don’t call it telemetry), but still. Funny. I bet they didn’t even remove all Google links from the source code.
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