• 𝒍𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒏@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 months ago

    16 years old? That thermostat has sure had a run, must have been designed pretty well to last this long without some electronic failure.

    Assuming it’s cloud connected, anyone aware whether it got updates for the newer versions of TLS and root certificates? As an example I’m aware quite a lot of android and similar devices from that era have expired certificates now, and outdated/vulnerable SSL libraries…

    Edit: Edit example

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      5 months ago

      For a thermostat that’s built into a house, 16 years doesn’t seem long enough, tbh. A ‘dumb’ thermostat can easily be in use for 30+ years before anyone would even consider replacing it.

      But yeah, as you said, if it’s connected to the internet you have to worry about software patches, certificates, etc.

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      16 years old? That thermostat has sure had a run

      I have game consoles that are more than twice that old and still play reliably. Apple really skewed our idea of lifespans for electronics, didn’t they? It’s a thermostat, they should be designed to install and forget for the next half-century. It’s a core part of a house, like the plumbing and breaker box.

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        5 months ago

        Didn’t the pace of change influence our perception more than anything else?

        Don’t old computers on old operating systems work as well as they did when support was dropped? Much like your example of consoles?

        The rate of software gobbling up newly available resources seems to a big reason people feel the need to move on. But I think that is starting to flatten out as the pace of processor improvements slows.

        The bloat on the web is a huge burden on older devices too. Especially for your average person.

        The bloat on the web and in native software (and in non-native software that is just another copy of Chrome posing as native software) comes from our newly available resources allowing for “lazy” development practices that prioritize cross platform development and other factors over writing efficient native software for each platform.

        There are a lot of factors involved in the rate of device turnover. I don’t think any one factor is consistently forcing people to upgrade hardware. It’s a collective situation.

        I use my desktop computers, for work, for nearly 10 years past their introduction date before replacing them. (Three more to go for my current machine). For my gaming computer, I swap a major part every 5-6 years.

        And to reiterate, I think this rate of change is slowing down. At least for raw processing power and how long it is relevant. The rate of change over the course of personal computing has been massive. And it’s just starting to slow down.

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        5 months ago

        Ah yes. Apple, the company with the longest support windows for secure patches of any phone/tablet manufacturer, are definitely the ones skewing our ideas on the lifespan of electronics.

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          5 months ago

          Why is it so common for Apple users to replace their devices every 1-2 years then? Theres a reason it’s a meme. Regardless of what Apple does with old hardware, they promote this mentality of always needing the next new shiny thing. They’re the pioneers of that.

          I’m still on a rooted Samsung from 2017. I know several people who went through 3 iPhones in that time.