I see it referenced constantly here, not quite as much on Reddit. I know what it means, but just wondering why such the popularity over on this side of the fence?
Because most people on lemmy are here because of it.
It’s a word that has become popular in general in the last year-ish. But if you hear it more here. It is likely because it is a term used to describe the dynamic that pushed people from Reddit and other platforms to Lemmy. So you will here it more here, since pretty much everyone here has been personally affected by it.
Basically we are a self selecting group of people who chose to leave (or minimize use of) big tech platforms. And are therefore much more likely to be aware of the problems with those platforms.
This place is noticeably more anticorporate - which makes sense because corporations tend to be dicks - and leftist. Enshittification is a fairly apt term for what goes on.
and leftist
Wasn’t there some controversy a while back due to the political beliefs of the Lemmy developers and the instance they run (lemmy.ml)? Maybe I’m misremembering.
Yes, they are tankies. Arguably tankies are No True Leftist or they wouldn’t be fellating right-wing regimes, but at least purportedly and self-identified…ly… they are not only “leftist” but “Communist”, ML is Marxism-Leninism after all.
this is your brain on liberalism
What’s your opinion of the Bolsheviks?
Bolshevik? I hardly knew her!
Yes, that they’re too leftist and are apologists.
- Socialist: [exists]
- Nazi media: “THIS IS THE WORST THING EVER”
- Average person: “Huh. Guess they’re my enemy now”
I think there are some that think their beliefs and moderating is a little too extreme.
You don’t think Lemmy.world’s botting, sockpuppetry, and heavy-handed moderation is extreme lol?
Not just Lemmy, it is simply a popula word now. But for good reason.
Easier to repeat other people than think.
Remember when things were better, before all the enshittification ? Pepperidge Farms remembers
I’m only here because I’m pissed at the enshitification of elsewhere. Of course Imma talk about it.
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It’s like the weeping angels from doctor who, the moment you take your eyes off the shit waves, you’re covered in it.
Recent helldivers and tarkov controversy be like
Reddit is inside the walls of enshittification. Reddit kowtows to the techbro narrative. Dissenting voices do appear there as they aren’t a full blown censorship. By and large the reddit userbase has historically been in aligned with big tech.
I think it’s just everywhere now. I see it on Tumblr too.
It’s because we were given a name for something that didn’t have a name before but was everywhere.
This is a great thing. With a definition we can understand and discuss the topic.
Gotta love linguistics
Language is magic. Some electrical impulses cause a bunch of electrochemical reactions in a complicated pile of meat to make air vibrate, and at a distance another complicated pile of meat turns the waves into a similar series of electrical impulses.
Of all the unlikely stuff to happen to make use… that’s still just wild…
I’m just glad people stopped inserting the word “literally” everywhere. Literally language enshitification.
And that, everybody, is literally not the correct usage of “enshittification”.
Jk, but for real though, it’s not a direct synonym for “degraded” or “gets worse”. It’s more specific than that.
Plus, “literally” now literally has an alternative definition in the dictionary meaning “figuratively”. So y’know, maybe get over the needless linguistic prescriptivism.
The problem is that when a word means one thing and it’s anonym at the same time, it does make it hard to tell which one they’re using. Usually it’s easy to tell, but not always. It’s not about prescriptivism, rather utility. I’m fine with language changing, but I hate losing useful words.
Agreed. Happy for language to change but what word do I use to tell people I’m not exaggerating?
I’m literally a prescriptivist though. But only during reverse office hours.
I think it’s happening more and more in the tech industry - one theory I heard was that rising interest rates meant companies couldn’t just take out loans that were practically free money, so they’re cracking down on monetizing every nook and cranny.
Reddit was no exception. Many of us left this thing we once loved because of it, and came here. So on top of industry trends, there’s a huge selection bias among us Lemmings.
Spot on imo.
Because it is what early !collapse@lemmy.ml looks like from a consumer’s standpoint.
Because they seem to love Cory Doctorow, while not knowing he was involved in the media harassment and witch hunting of a famous Chinese tech girl Naomi Wu.
You can navigate to part 1 if you want to read the full story, so you can understand Cory Doctorow’s role mentioned in part 2.
Did you actually read this? I don’t think you did. Either that or you’re being extremely dishonest right now.
Doctorow is briefly mentioned in passing in this blog post. His only involvement was a single tweet that in absolutely no way mentioned or even implied it was about Wu. Despite that she decided to make it about her anyway, and declared that Cory was leading some kind of witch hunt against her based on no evidence other than her own decision that she automatically counted as a “garbage person” in his mind. We have zero evidence that this was actually Cory’s intent, just her assertion that it must have been his meaning.
To take that and turn it into “he was involved in the media harassment and witch hunting of a famous Chinese tech girl Naomi Wu” isa disgustingly disingenuous twisting of the available facts.
It’s not impossible that Cory shares some blame in the events described - no one is perfect, every hero is some kind of bastard, yada yada - but the evidence you’ve offered doesn’t come remotely close to backing up the claims you’re making, and it’s dangerously irresponsible to share such a claim on such a flimsy basis.
Yeah, I did read it more times than you did, which counts as atleast one. Cory has a lot of reach in mainstream media, has done AMAs on Reddit, and has strings he can pull for people. Defending Sarah’s demonic behaviour while calling Naomi a garbage person is what he chose to do. It is exactly how western establishment systematically shits on people, even though Naomi has been one of the only popular Chinese tech people to make it big.
