• davel@lemmy.ml
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    17 hours ago

    The rest are in undeclared labor camps

    Goes for both

    US labor camps are not undeclared (though extraterritorial black sites are). They’re called prisons, and the labor is slave labor, thanks to the 13th amendment.

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      16 hours ago

      The previous user is a bit off base with the labor camps idea (not to say that the Xinjiang detention camps for Uyghurs aren’t widely known), but it is worth noting that China does utilize administrative detentions/行政拘留 for smaller offenses which are kept statistically separate from prison counts.

      If Raiden needs a source, the law covering administrative detentions can be reviewed here:

      https://www.gov.cn/xinwen/2021-01/23/content_5582030.htm

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        16 hours ago

        but it is worth noting that China does utilize administrative detention

        Isn’t that the same as Jails in the US which is separate from prison statistics?

        Jail is where you go for the night when arrested for disorderly conduct and are released the next day.

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          16 hours ago

          Administrative detentions can be longer. On paper they can hold you about a month, but it can be longer than that with a judge’s signoff if they have proof of a crime.

          This is typically where the police try to get you to confess to something and drag it out as long and uncomfortably as possible until you do, after which you either get to go free (though you end up on a list for a long time) or you may go to a “black jail”/黑監獄 which is a sort of under-the-table prison.

          The terms of release can also sometimes require completion of a rehabilitation program, which is often the voluntary alternative to prison, or getting transferred to a short stay detention center for a few months to perform community service.

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            8 hours ago

            Administrative detentions can be longer. On paper they can hold you about a month, but it can be longer than that with a judge’s signoff if they have proof of a crime.

            And in the US, jail can be up to just short of a year.

            This is typically where the police try to get you to confess to something and drag it out as long and uncomfortably as possible until you do, after which you either get to go free (though you end up on a list for a long time) or you may go to a “black jail”/黑監獄 which is a sort of under-the-table prison.

            The terms of release can also sometimes require completion of a rehabilitation program, which is often the voluntary alternative to prison, or getting transferred to a short stay detention center for a few months to perform community service.

            So pretty similar to the US.