Statcounter reports that Windows 11 continues to lose its market share for the second month in a row. Windows 10, meanwhile, is gaining more users and is now back above the 70% mark.

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    5 months ago

    Love how this is posted when I literally just got done trashing my os(win11) earlier this week and decided to move back to windows 10. Now I run windows 10 stripped of garbage using ntlite. It’s been so much better.

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    5 months ago

    I’ve been using Windows since version 3.1. My rig isn’t cutting edge but still plenty good, but isn’t supported for an upgrade to 11. The AI spyware in 11 is just another reason not to switch to it even if I could. One 10 hits end of life, I’m putting Mint on it.

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    5 months ago

    Microsoft’s own incompetence has made Windows 11 a failure. The system requirements really made it a flop (possibly an intentional part of their plan to boost hardware sales but create a ton of e-waste as a result). I’m running Windows 11 as my PC meets the specs, it’s not a bad OS persay as it works for my day to day needs. However, if I didn’t game on PC I would probably switch completely to Linux. I stay on Windows as it is for the time being convenient to do so. If the next version of Windows has a dire increase in regards to specifications…I would likely go back to Ubuntu!

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      5 months ago

      You should check protondb and see if your games of choice are supported, if you’ve not done so already.

      I completely jumped ship from Windows the better part of a year ago now and haven’t encountered a single game that didn’t run, at the least, reasonably well. And usually just fine OOB. Though ymmv of course.

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        5 months ago

        It’s a big YMMV experience with Linux, it just boiled down to mental load in comparison to Windows; Remembering all manner of commands and how to do certain things, along with that subset of hostile Linux users on help forums has made it an OS that I will use only in a dire situation. Linux is mostly for those who aren’t afraid to tinker with the OS and have time to figure out what the hell is wrong with their PC in case of a strange situation occurring. Ubuntu worked really well for me for years (except the times it didn’t, and I Googled my way to a solution each time). I did miss the ease of installing games and just having them work without extra steps (a common issue for most games). I also expanded my console games library so that the game variety is not lacking.

        Windows is admittedly easier to maintain, and I never have any encountered any major concerns since the Windows 7 days and once while on Windows 10. As far as compatibility goes, I know most of my Steam and GOG libraries are compatible with Linux, since I’ve a tendency to buy games which are supported on Linux. I made sure to give myself a decent library as a result in case Microsoft screwed the pooch enough that I needed to go back to a Linux distro.

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    5 months ago

    I honestly have zero problems with W11.

    This being said I only run it on my gaming PC. My laptop runs Linux and I like that better. Honestly most people can switch their gaming rigs to Linux as well. I’ve tried it, it’s very good. I’ve got some elgato products which I wanna keep alive, fuck with VR a little, and freetrack is not available yet which is the real deal-breaker for me.

    I played most games on Linux no problem though and it was great.

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      I think I’ve had just one issue with Linux gaming, and it was made worse by me trying to troubleshoot the error, when restarting the game for the first launch solved it out right. It was a, “have you turned it off and on again?” situations. Otherwise, everything has ran well, installed well, and was pretty seamless. All of that while running Nvidia, which is the biggest surprise.

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        Yep. That’s been my experience too. 9/10 times it runs flawlessly, and when it doesn’t it’s usually easy to solve. I’m running Nvidia hardware too, and it’s been no issue. I do older games on my ThinkPad sometimes too. Zero problems.

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          I can’t run Wayland, which I think I’ve determined is an Nvidia thing, but that’s it. I do wish there were more and better options for some softwares, but that’s just the nature of the game. Specifically audio recording and CAD leave something to be desired, but there are at least some options.

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    5 months ago

    I run Windows 11 on my workstation rig out of necessity and it’s serviceable as an OS… as long as Microsoft keeps their greedy fingers out of it - which they do not. W11’s lack of uptake is entirely their fault and they have done nothing to grow any good will amongst their customers and, in fact, constantly treat them like money pinatas to beat repeatedly.

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      5 months ago

      It’s better than being stuck on a version of windows that slowly drifts further away from the last security update it recived. I wonder how many companies out there don’t pay for support but don’t upgrade.

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      5 months ago

      Does your office have a choice or have they been caught in the permanent obsolescence game? Often one single professional app that provides new versions only for W11 does the trick.

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        We’re a Microsoft shop, so we’ve been flies caught in the ointment since day one. I wish it was one app. We’re all in - Teams, Office, Visual Studio, Outlook, the works.

        I’d say I don’t really understand the rush, but we were supposed to be live with Win11 last year. I guess in this particular case, my office’s dysfunction has worked in my favor.

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          5 months ago

          Lol.

          We’re also largely a Microsoft shop (Teams, Office, Outlook, Github, etc), but our department uses macOS, mostly because our IT is stubborn about locking down our systems and the easiest way to get an exception is to say we “need” macOS, otherwise we’d probably be on Windows. Honestly, if my company used Windows, I wouldn’t be working there, I hate Visual Studio (I use ViM), and my entire workflow just doesn’t work on Windows (I use Linux at home). I honestly can’t remember the last time I booted Windows.

          Maybe there’s not much you can do, which sucks. But if your entire team doesn’t like Windows 11, perhaps you can look into an exception by saying you need something else. Most Microsoft stuff works fine on macOS, so find some killer feature of macOS that your team totally needs and maybe you can get an exception. That would be a lot easier than convincing them you need to stay on Win10 since WIn10 well stop getting support at some point, so paying for the longer-term support probably isn’t worth it for your company.

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    5 months ago

    I kinda feel like Microsoft already knows about the recognized pattern of every other OS release being considered a success. That being said, I’d bet $1 they’re already spending more in the development of Windows 12 v 11.

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    5 months ago

    I recently jumped ship to a new gig that MS’s account reps have burrowed deeply into.

    It’s been about 7 years since I’ve been in a “Microsoft for all the things” shop. Now that I’m back in Microsoft land after 7 years, my first thought is “what the fuck happened in Redmond?”

    The software is buggy, people are restarting left and right, and everything is missing 25% of their competitor’s features. I feel like I’m visiting a childhood home that is now occupied by hoarders.

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    5 months ago

    It seems that permanent obsolescence is beginning to cost too much for the users. I hope they will all keep dragging their feet, but will be a tough fight because friendly providers of professional tools will keep releasing the new versions only for Windows 11, eventually they will force some to upgrade.

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    5 months ago

    I think a primary use for windoze machines is gaming. I hear that the steam deck has pushed a lot of games into playable states on Linux.

    So I hope this makes it much easier to switch from windoze to Linux.

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      I’m in this camp. I use my PC mainly for gaming, and it runs Linux. All the games I care about are supported just fine with Steam and Proton. Not every game is compatible, but it works for the ones I want to play.

      I found it very easy to get my games working, but experiences will vary. Most games were zero effort because it was handled automatically.

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      5 months ago

      I moved to Linux Mint about 4 weeks ago (with optional dual boot Windows). All the games I tried have worked so far, even when not officially supported (turn on Proton compatibility in steam settings). If your multiplayer games use anticheat, Linux is a no go.

      If you happen to have 2 harddrives, try installing Linux on one to see if it’s something for you.

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    5 months ago

    I started dual booting to Arch Linux and more often than not I boot more now into Linux than Windows 11. I’ve used Windows since 3.11. Microsoft really have fucked Windows recently.

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      5 months ago

      Windows updates used to be seen as upgrades. I remember getting Win95 to run on my 386 with 8MB of RAM (which my buddy said wouldn’t be able to handle it). I was so stoked to have it working because 95 had so many improvements over 3.1. Of course each release had its issues but after some service packs they were usually pretty good.

      Maybe it started with Windows ME, but it definitely was in full effect by Vista, where new releases became downgrades. XP was the last great version, when I had to move on from that everything started getting much worse UX-wise.

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    5 months ago

    After trying Windows 11 for a while, I just gave up and installed Kubuntu on my computer. I still use a Windows VM for some things, but I make sure to firewall the shit out of it lol

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      5 months ago

      I switched to Nobara. I still got to dual boot 10 for a few games but I’m in no rush to get the install set up. I tried 11 and its just pure ensitifacation.

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        5 months ago

        I’m actually scared to dual boot. I’ve heard too many stories of Windows updates messing up the bootloader

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          I haven’t switched or started dual-booting yet because I haven’t had time, but I’ve read the recommendation that the best way to do dual or even multiple boot is to have separate physical OS drives and select which one to boot from with the BIOS boot selector. Smaller SSD drives are pretty cheap these days, especially if you get them used on ebay or whatever. I picked up a Samsung 240 with 0% wearout for like $20 bucks.