cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/31683994
Fox News reports that Donald Trump may consider using nuclear weapons to eliminate Iran’s Fordo nuclear facility
The U.S. military has reservations regarding the success of using a bunker-buster bomb, a non nuclear weapon, to eliminate Iran’s Fordo nuclear facility, buried deep in a mountain. Two defense officials were reportedly briefed that only a tactical nuclear weapon could reach the facility.
The fact that experts concluded that a tactical nuke would do the job doesn’t imply that they are considering using it. I don’t like the US administration, but this is wildly overblowing statements and pure fearmongering.
At this point I’m alright with a nuclear apocalypse, we had it coming. I just hope I’m close enough to a blast sight to not have to deal with the aftermath.
Fake news. They want the price of oil and gas to go up to please Putin.
Ya know, I can’t hate this take.
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The fact is that conventional bombs can’t eliminate all the underground and mountainous facilities. This requires either a large ground invasion and occupation, at a very high cost, or nuclear weapons.
A ground invasion can’t happen for a number of reasons and Israel and the U.S. can’t allow Iran to continue having a nuclear program means that they will see no other choice but to use tactical nukes.
What about MOP?
What about stuxnet? But i guess no-one involved is looking for non violent solutions.
My point was that the “nuclear bomb is viable vs. other weapons” argument is wrong. MOP is a missile that seems to be specifically crafted for such purposes.
So we’ll have a war of aggression with Iran for? We don’t like them? Israel has committed more violations of national borders and laws. The KoSA and Egypt’s citizens were involved in 9-11 and they are “allies”.
Maybe they’ve got Saddam’s missing WMDs. . .
All that freshly baked yellow cake
Yeah but israel is our colonial outpost in the middle east, they can do whatever they want
9/11 killed a lot of Americans, ice kills Americans, do you see the pattern here, Jimmy?
If any other country did the things Israel has done, we’d be sanctioning them at a minimum. We invaded Iraq both times for less.
Hell we made up lies about Iraq
This time we are past the need for that. It will all be everchanging bullshit from here on out with the us.
I’ll wait for the US to demand that Israel destroy its nuclear weapons…this may take a while…
I mean, it makes the most sense to hit that facility with a bunker busting tactical nuke. Probably the only way to significantly ensure enough damage to end production at the facility.
You want them to retaliate with dirty bombs? Get into another terrorist pissing match?
When the cure is worse than the disease.
No
You drop nukes and you cross the line. There is a goddamnrd good reason why nobody uses nukes and trump gets in and now all of the sudden everyone and their mother goes “weeeeeeelll, a tactical nuke, might make sense?”
Fuck. That. Shit.
You do NOT blow up nukes, ever.
I ask you a simple question: Name the only nation that has already used a nuclear weapon in a war… twice.
So you want / have to hit a facility designed to survive most attacks, even potential nuclear attacks and you chose to not use the weapons best suited?
You’re a fucking clown for suggesting nuclear weapons. Nuclear weapons are evil, go watch some history videos of what happened to people who were hit by one. And not only that, the destruction is long-term. Using a nuclear weapon to penetrate the Earth will definitely leave the region poisoned for multiple lifetimes.
Yes, correct. Absolutely. Because there are ramifications way fucking beyond that one instance.
Similarly, if my neighbor’s dog sometimes pisses on the petunias, a gun would absolutely solve the problem, yet despite being extremely effective it may not be the best solution.
Fine, start a nuclear war. It’s the waiting I can’t stand.
“We want to stop nuclear proliferation by starting a nuclear war.” - these fucking geniuses, apparently
Hey, you can’t deny the world will have a lot fewer nuclear weapons in it afterwards!
“Art of the Deal”. Always start “negotiations” with a threat to go nuclear, then brag and posture and bully. Deal
You forgot the part where you Chicken out and go back on everything so you lose on both sides… No one ever sees it coming
Now it’s crystal clear how this absolute idiot bankrupt a casino
He is going to back pedal because Iran is his boss’s (Putin ) ally. He is once again talking shit he has no intention of backing up. I could see him ordering a nin-nuke strike on something that wouldn’t get him in trouble with his handler though as a fake tough man move.
He floats the craziest idea so that whatever happens he can say “at least I didn’t do that one thing” and his base will praise him for it–even though the thing he actually did was still moronic. This is the “permanent 300% tariff”, “Canada will be the 51st state”, or the “Golden Trump Gaza” video. It’s the only way this imbecile knows how to negotiate.
The Golden Trump Gaza, what a fucking joke. I could be totally wrong but I’m going to take a guess and say that the Gaza strip is one of the most bombed out places in the world. If true it’ll be littered with unexploded ordinance forever or at least practically forever. He wants to make a giant Mar’a Lago? Sure okay, I’m sure your guests would enjoy the risk of losing a limb or being killed cause a forgotten bomb goes off 10 years later.
It’s nothing compared to, say, what the US did to Laos, but yes there are thousands of tons of unexploded ordinance in there and will take at least a decade to clean up.
He’s gonna backpadel because he is a wimp, a paper tiger, he doesn’t dare to send people to war as he’s chickened out of Viet Nam.
TACO
What the actual hell.
What is a country? A miserable pile of war crimes.
Turning a habitable area full of innocent people into a pile of radioactive rubble and dying people why? Because fucking the Israeli government wants to genocide palestinians without resistance? Damn we fucking suck as a country
MADness.
Hopefully someone drops him beforehand.
