Last year, New Orleans added more than 1,000 child care seats for low-income families after voters approved a historic property tax increasein 2022. The referendum raised the budget of the program seven-fold — from $3 million to $21 million a year for 20 years. Because Louisiana’s early childhood fund matches money raised locally for child care, the city gets an additional $21 million to help families find care.

New Orleans is part of a growing trend of communities passing ballot measures to expand access to child care. In Whatcom County, Washington, a property tax increase added $10 million for child care and children’s mental health to the county’s annual budget. A marijuana sales tax approved last year by voters in Anchorage, Alaska, will generate more than $5 million for early childhood programs.

The state of Texas has taken a somewhat different tack. In November, voters approved a state constitutional amendment that allows tax relief for qualifying child care providers. Under this provision, cities and counties can choose to exempt a child care center from paying all or some of its property taxes. Dallas was among the first city-and-county combo in Texas to provide the tax break.

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      You idiot. Your entire society is based kids that eventually pay for your dumb ass in a nursing home. OH, you gonna make so much money that you can pay for your own retirement? OH? Are you going to pay for your own police services and fire services too? Or the roads you walk and drive on. Or the utilities you use or the stable society you live in?

      It doesn’t matter if YOU have kids. The kids that you don’t have will eventually pay taxes that continues the standard of quality of your worthless life.

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      I wonder who takes care of you when you’re old, or the people that maintain infrastructure, or insert literally anything else that makes society run or continue. It’s certainly not the fucks who are as old or older than you.

      You must hate yourself and everything that helped you get to where you are today as equally as the kids. You were, after all, a “crotch goblin” that benefitted from much of the same shit yourself.

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      This type of mentality is a problem. You don’t personally use something therefore you don’t want to pay for it. You should be thinking about what is necessary for a working society to figure out what taxes should be used for. Kids are necessary even if you don’t have or want them.

      I don’t have and will probably never have kids but I gladly pay for kids welfare. Doesn’t just help the kids. It also helps the family as a whole do better.

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      I’m a taxpayer who had kids, who are all now also taxpayers. But if free childcare had been available to me when they were little, we could have both worked, I could have gone to college faster and made more money and paid more taxes.

      You are gonna pay taxes for something, the whole point is to use it for things that make society better.

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    And how much money is going to the educators to support them? Or will it all funnel into the owners pockets at tax payer expenses?

    Educators receive some of the lowest median wages of all industries and are struggling to hire workers due to shortages because it is an unsustainable and grueling profit driven industry when for-profit centres are involved. Many educators already have to supply their own resources, they can’t afford more children enrolled.

    And if you want high quality education and care for these children, you need to retain staff who have institutional and professional knowledge.

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      I agree with you about educators, but educators are not involved in this case because it’s child care and not school. And while child care workers definitely need to be paid more as well, this is a good thing for a lot of poor people and don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

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        Professionals working in Early Childhood Education, that is 0-5 years, are called educators.

        We teach children, that is our job. We are not simply minders while you work. We hold university degrees for teaching, we follow (where applicable) state regulations, we plan curriculum, and buy resources to teach with.

        Children learn more in the first few years of life than they ever will at any other point. ECE is critical.

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          apples and oranges dude. this article is about child care, not education. youre not wrong about education also taking a back seat, but this is an article about the critical nature of child care and a mild success in its implementation, not the also critically important child education.

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            Childcare is the colloquialism for Early Childhood Education.

            So no, not apples and oranges, it’s bananas and nanas.

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                I work in the industry, we are educators.

                And if you think teachers in schools are getting compensated well you’re also mistaken.

                You don’t know what you’re on about, got it.

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          Okay, my apologies for not knowing the term. I would still say not to let the perfect be the enemy of the good. You do deserve to be paid more, but that doesn’t mean this is a bad thing.

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            This isn’t even good, there’s already a huge demand for a spot in a centre that cannot be met due to staff shortages, all this does is add to the number of children trying to be enrolled.

            If you want to see more children attending, you need to get more educators, to get more educators you need to focus on their wages and working conditions.

            Programs like this while potentially great for handful of low income families fuck over us low income workers.

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        Please date an early childhood education major, or read a book, or something.

        That’s so completely incorrect that I hope you didn’t have children.
        THE most important years of educational development fall within this age range.
        The impact that an intervention from a professional can have at this age on the development of a child cannot be overstated.

        And the richest people know that, I guarantee that many of them have developmental experts advising them on their children from the age of 0.

        But not us! We are peasants, if your child develops a tendency toward violence, substance abuse, never decelops coping mechanisms, or even gets brain damage. Great! They’ll make an adequate worker.

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            You seem open to new ideas where many people react to criticisms with anger. That openness alone puts you ahead of most people, so you’re already doing it.

            To add, I’m no expert, I just listen to experts and have interacted with a lot of early childhood development specialists. I don’t know a ton, but they imprinted on me the importance of development in those years.

            I apologize for being harsh, I get upset because children need so so much at an early age. I get angry when I see the same misconceptions handed down that has caused people to live a life of confusion due to inadequate preparation. The things that happen in those years can follow a person all the way to the grave.

            Then combine all that with the state’s neglect of children, well, upsetting to say the least. We have a garden of youth that is going to be our future generation, we have the tools (education specialists), we have the knowledge, we have the money, yet no investment is being made. These are some of the most valuable dollars a society could spend to create a better future, and instead we get news of annual cuts, people leaving the profession, kids being neglected.

            It’s enraging to see a society setting the next generation up for failure.

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      The learning centers are nuts. The one my son went to started at $2600/month three years ago. It’s more now, of course. Each teacher was responsible for up to four infants. Over $10k per month per teacher. Guess how much they made? The senior teacher made $25/hr and the junior one made $20/hr (barely above minimum). So $3900/month went to the infant teachers. One year olds got a cost break down to $2400/month and each teacher could watch five. There is no reason for a teacher to go there instead of just doing nannying where two kids would make them $35-40/hr.

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        Insurance, licensing, physical building and maintenance, FICA, health insurance, PTO, additional coverage for workers who are constantly sick from kids being sick, administrative assistant, building security, accounting, attorneys, and so on.

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          I understand that labor costs are not the only costs. But over $10k per teacher is the low end and also numbers from three years ago. When we left a year ago, his tuition was $2300 after a 10% discount from my work. That was a classroom with 6 kids per teacher so likely over $14k revenue per teacher per month who still averages $3600/month. They did not do a great job with extra teachers since I recall him having to stay home a dozen times because of a lack of teachers. They were not even close to the most expensive. Bright Horizons charged about $3200 per infant three years ago. They definitely make healthy profit while paying their teachers very little in a high cost of living city.

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      What’s always been strange to me is that in three different cities in two different states, a large % of my local tax breakdown always says it’s going to the school district, which I am all for, but I think it’s all got to be going to building and ground maintenance. I’ve known teachers in my school districts (one with a with master’s in education) with gross pay under $50k a year, who pay for classroom/teaching supplies out of pocket, and they’re teaching classes of 25-30 kids. I don’t have kids and probably never will, but I still want the kids in my school district to do well in school and have all the resources they need to become strong members of their communities when they grow up. Please raise my taxes if that’s what it takes to not fail another generation.

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        First a lot more administrative tasks are added to the educators. More paperwork, more reports, more bureaucracy, permits, rules. Then more people are hired to handle the paperwork and stuff. In the end, more money disappears into bureaucracy.

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        What the fuck is up with lack of school supplies? Every teacher that I have ever known has always spent at least a grand or two of their own money to provide basic school supplies.

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          The US expects parents to provide supplies for their children, but many can’t or don’t. This leaves the teacher in the hard place of having to use their own limited personal budget to buy supplies for those children or for them to have these kids in their classes without basics like notebooks and pencils. Teachers care about their students, so they sacrifice their own money to provide for these children.

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    Cue the people saying, “why should I have to pay this tax when I don’t have children?”

    And not just Republicans either.

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      Who do they think will take care of them when they can’t function anymore? Do they really want a bunch of younger people who hate their guts?

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        They’ll hust do what my racist grandpa did and marry a Philippino woman he met online and move her to the country to care for him since all his children hated his guts.

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      “It gives the parents an opportunity to have kids in a society who otherwise puts emphasis on employment first, and family second… and we’ll need some of those kids to care care of you and wipe yo’ ass at the retirement home when you’ll be older.”

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      And then complaining that Americans (only certain ones of course) are not having enough children.

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        The people who make poor decisions impact you. They and their kids exist in your community. If you go to a store, do you want the cashier to know how to count? Do you want the person taking your order at a restaurant to know how to write?

        More importantly, jobs are the best way to stop crime. Way better than police. Education is the best way to get people better jobs. Early childhood day care and kindergarten is the best education, as it starts children off early.

        I can’t connect the dots any clearer for you. If you need help understanding this, maybe you could have benefitted from early childhood education yourself.

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      Why should my Tax Dollars go to OTHER PEOPLE’S KIDS when there’s perfectly fine BILLIONAIRES who can use it to buy a new Yacht instead?

      -Republicans trying to Save The Children!

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    Having children doesn’t make sense in a capitalist society, because children cost money without producing anything. Parents have to compete with non-parents for housing, employment, energy, and transportation, while having less to bid on these items because they are paying to raise children. Extinction is inevitable because the future, neither the environment nor its inhabitants, have value in the marketplace.

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      It’s almost like people are illogical, emotional beings, and don’t think purely in terms of the most profitable course

      But yeah, clearly this isn’t enough anymore and we as a society need to start making parenthood more appealing. It seems so obvious this is yet another long term disaster in the making that could be prevented with minor changes now, but we’ll blunder into it in half a century and surprise pikachu face when the impact is huge