Even from people that never lived in a communist state

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    6 months ago

    Point taken.

    In your opinion, are worker cooperatives operating in a market economy socialist?

    And do you consider any countries today socialist?

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      Microcosms of Socialism, sure, participating in a broader Capitalist system.

      Yes, there are AES countries. No country on Earth is 100% purely Socialist, not even Cuba or Chiapas, but there are several countries where the economy is majority owned and operated by the working class and the Capitalists are held not only accountable, but submissive to the state.

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      6 months ago

      Not OP, but I’ll take a stab at it.

      In your opinion, are worker cooperatives operating in a market economy socialist?

      That’s not really how it works. The fundamental question is: is the state capitalist, meaning a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, or is it socialist, meaning a dictatorship of the proletariat? While you can have a worker coop in a capitalist state, you’d still fundamentally be under the boot of the capitalist class that controls the state at the expense of the working class.

      And do you consider any countries today socialist?

      https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Actually_Existing_Socialism