Even from people that never lived in a communist state

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    I’ve lived all my life under capitalism and I hate it.

    I’ve read Marx, (for real, grab the book and read it!) and I see the dude does have a point.

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        6 months ago

        I’d recommend Chris Harman’s How Marxism Works for an intro, or Engels’ Principles of Communism. The Manifesto is more of a call to action for Workers than an overview of Communism, though it’s still an important work nonetheless.

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      How someone can downvote two subjective statements of opinion (hates capitalism, sees a point in a book) is beyond me. There’s nothing to downvote here. It’s an opinion, not a statement of fact that is incorrect.

      People misuse downvotes.

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        That’s an easy question to answer. People often downvote comments that waste their time. Opinions that have no basis, or that are based on bad definitions or falsehoods, those tend to get downvoted. Because there’s nothing to learn and nothing to discuss.

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      I strongly recommend you to read Animal Farm, it’s very easy to understand

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        I’ve read it.

        Orwell was socialist my dude.

        Ever read one of his other books Down and Out in Paris and London?

        It helps explain why he is a socialist.

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          allegories are much better at explaining theories, you guys always say that it was never actually implemented. And I’m not gonna read something from a man who occupied my country in 1921

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            Allegories can help explain theories, but they are never sufficient to understand it. Animal Farm is an allegory of a strawman, it barely touches reality. And it’s no wonder you are that embedded in propaganda, it’s normal.

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        I recommend you learn from real books about real life like those of Marx and Lenin, not fiction.

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        You mean Orwell’s classic anti-capitalist novel wherein a worker’s rebellion against tyrannical bosses is betrayed by capitalist pigs who re-create the farm’s original conditions for their own profit?

        You should read his “Homage to Catalonia”, Orwell fought against capitalists in Spain’s civil war and wrote a book about his experiences there.

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      I thought the same many years ago, until I saw how it went for every single country that implemented communism and then I didnt like it so much. You all seriously think is a coincidence?

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        Not really surprising, it’s complicated to make progress when every world power has it out for you.

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        You gotta look the context and learn about geopolitics. If Communism is so bad why the USA need to keep interfering with Cuba?

        Lets compare Cuba with other Caribbean islands, how they perform against those? Remember they are blocked by the strongest country in the world.

        Cuba developed its own covid vaccine, cuba sends doctors to africa in order to help people there, when Italia was in a health crisis Cuba sent thousands of doctors.

        Cuba has the most advanced and inclusive family laws in the world.

        Edit: btw Awesome album and Lemmy was an Anarchist.