Even from people that never lived in a communist state

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    Socialism — the dictatorship of the working-class — is the transitional mode of production between capitalism — the dictatorship of the capitalist class — and the stateless, classless mode of production that is communism. You can’t really separate the two.

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      Thats the communist definition of socialism. Socialism originally just referred to the leftist movement as a whole (including anarchists and dem-socs, which i guess he refers to). And is also used to refer to the concept of workers owning the means of production

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        The first line in Wikipedia “Socialism is an economic and political philosophy encompassing diverse economic and social systems[1] characterised by social ownership of the means of production”.

        To be clear, this definition goes back to 1832, where the original inventor of the word used to define a society “based on the shared ownership of resources”. So it is not just “the communist definition” it really is the definition, it did not “originally” refer to anything else.

        • xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          But that definition from Wikipedia doesn’t contain the contested part of the definition, that it is a “transitional system”