I’m sick of random capitalisations mid sentence. I’m sick of common words being replaced by less common ones or even downright nonsense. I’m sick of it taking three attempts to successfully get the word I want. I swear it’s been like this for five years or more. Can we have a better version yet, or at least the old one back?
Autocorrect is slave-mentality
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I have a major issue with Gboard where it’ll have a word suggested, I’ll see it, type the next letter in the word, then tap the suggestion. BUT it’ll have moved the suggestion from the middle to the side in favor of putting some random word in the middle and I’ll tap the wrong word because of that.
It’s so frustrating for it to move around like that.
I’d never once considered a phone being faster. I always see typing on my phone as a pain, an I’m no great touch typist by an means (around 80wpm).
How fast do you type on a standard keyboard, for comparison? I’m curious if you like the phone better because you’re not very fast with a regular keyboard, or if I’m just bad with my phone.
Gboard is alright.
I miss T-9 and physical buttons. I could type out War and Peace with maybe one typo without looking at my phone once. The whole on-screen keyboards of the last ~17years have been a huge downgrade, IMO.
i want my sidekick back. best form factor ever
Never had a Sidekick, but I had several phones with similar landscape slide out / flip open keyboards. Those were the days.
My current daily driver is about 8 years old (a OnePlus 3 that’s aged very gracefully thanks to LineageOS), but I do need to replace it soon. Looking at something like the Cosmo Communicator that has a full flip-open keyboard.
im amazed at the fact i stopped caring/needing a more powerful phone 5-6 years ago. its just not a thing that matters anymore… theres no feature or processing speed i would need from a new device despite my phone bein 5 years old.
too bad the batteries arent replaceable as that actually is one of my only concerns.
Yep. This 8 year old phone does absolutely everything I need it to do (well, haven’t had to deal with AV1 videos yet, so software decoding those might show its age), but the battery is on its last legs.
I’d just replace the battery (involved but not too difficult), but I also want a newer phone with better support for some of the LTE bands near me. I figure 8 years is a good run for a smartphone as a daily driver lol.
Never heard of planet computers until you mentioned the Cosmo Communicator. Their products look really cool!
I miss the keyboard on the T-mobile G1.
Fan of Palm Treo here.
My friend, I am also slightly nostalgic for the optimism and novelty of the flip phone days. I could text confidently with T9 inside a hoodie pocket during class. But my good friend there is no universe where I want to go back to T9 for the convenience and effectiveness of it. It is not quick compared to anything that came after.
For me, it averages out about the same / maybe a slight benefit for T9.
Yeah, I can type faster on a modern on-screen keyboard, but by the time i go back and correct typos, fight the cursor to get it where i want it, and double check that all the words i meant to type didn’t get autocorrected into something else, I could have typed the same thing with much better precision on a T9 style and have, at most, one word to fix.
It’s something of a tortoise and hare situation. lol
No, because words that use repetition of the same series of letters requires a delay between each letter input, is was especially annoying when in the pocket because if you were going too quickly it was very easy to place 1 letter that was a combination of multiple letters.
Heavily rose tinted glasses you have there.
Also enjoy the 50 pixel per inch screen resolution, scroll-everything navigation, terrible Internet browsing, no video streaming, and incredibly proprietary (if any) internal media player. I’m not saying the swipe keyboard hasn’t begun becoming enshittified (which auto completes and is a brand new term) and it’s slightly annoying, but I would take today’s phone over 10 years ago, and 10 years ago over 20 years ago (even a full keyboard BlackBerry, or a t9) any day of the year and twice on leap day.
No, because words that use repetition of the same series of letters requires a delay between each letter input
only if you were typing letter by letter instead of using the built-in dictionary.
No, because words that use repetition of the same series of letters requires a delay between each letter input
My flip phone just let me press arrow right to skip the delay for repeat buttons.
I’m very much a tech person and can confirm for me personally: T9-Word in combination with physical keys was a much faster, one-handed, and even eyes-off experience. Even when I upgraded to a phone with a slide out full physical keyboard (Samsung Intensity), T9 was still faster. For any word that had repeated keys back-to-back, my hand knew to press the right arrow which would move the cursor to the next position.
I’m purely talking about typing while not looking at the screen (for instance in a pocket like OP mentioned). Not sure why you brought screen resolution into it or media players. I’m not a vintage tech apologist–I’m typing this on an S22 with SwiftKey and it’s fine minus a few mistakes. But there was no way I could do this blindfolded. I’d have exited the app and be typing something regrettable into Slack by now.
I’m currently learning Japanese, and one of my favorite things right now is that the “normal” phone keyboard for Japanese is basically a t9 on steroids. It gives you this grid with huge buttons, you tap a letter or swipe in a cardinal direction to get a variant. E.g., the button will show か (ka) and swiping will get you く、け、こ、き (ku, ke, ko, ki).
It is super intuitive and with like a few minutes of training I was typing faster on it than my English keyboard (albeit with my very very limited vocabulary). The buttons are so large it’s hard to miss.
私はねこです。
それいぬをたべましょか。
🐕🐈🐈⬛
I’ve noticed it getting worse as well. It ducking sucks now.
I don’t know about you, but I just swiped my way through the first sentence off this reply with Google’s keyboard and all I had to do was select swiped instead of the suggested settled.
They do remember common words that you use, so if you have accidentally “approved” a few misspellings they’ll be suggested/given to you more often so a drastic solution to that is to clear your personalised data from the keyboard.
I don’t seem to have an issue with swiping on my keyboard either except for names and abbreviations/capitalisations but then all phone keyboards struggle with that except for T9 and blackberries. I think it’s a small price to pay for such fast and effortlessly swiping for 99.9% of the time.
Did you mean to type “off this reply”?
They do remember common words that you use
Sometimes your own peril… I keep getting my ex’s name randomly when I’m swiping for another word 🤦♂️
You can always hold and remove any suggestion, be it a typo or an ex’s name.
I’ve switched to Gboard on Android back in the days, when it was the only one with proper multilingual features, and been using it ever since.
I’ve experienced the opposite: I actually found it rather more helpful than not, despite the occasional errors like you mentioned. But nowadays it’s quite rare that it “mispredicts” a word. And what I’ve found extremely helpful is, that nowadays it doesn’t only correct individual words, but it picks up other grammatical errors as well in the sentence. So it’s working for me.
I’ve only ever used Gboard and I even turned off the predictive text and autocorrection features in the settings but it still changes words on me often.
i try to train words that i use as shorthand or slang for years it completely ignores me. i accidently end my email address .comd instead of .com once 5 years ago!! will that thing forget it no never
I turned it off a long time ago when it started replacing entire sentences. So annoying!!
I still have the suggestions on but I might turn that off too because it keeps suggesting words in other languages even though I’m on the English keyboard and don’t know much in any other language (and the only other keyboard I have is the Spanish one).
Also the dictionary doesn’t have a shit ton of common words in it for some reason, so if I can’t think of the proper spelling I have to look it up anyway. Which is also annoying because search engines suck and I never have a hard copy handy.
Ayo, whatever has been making recommendations for my next few terms in Visual Studio can go straight onto my phone, that shit is accurate 90% of the time it’s sometimes a wee bit concerning
I sideloaded HeliBoard on Android via F-Droid and the predictive text is coming along nicely the more I type.
Hmmm, wonder why it needs side loaded? Why can they post to the Google store?
Edit: just installed it and f-droid, though. Super easy.
Let me know what you think about it. I also loaded the swipe gesture pack and it is super responsive
I think the major problem is that culture is evolving so rapidly that keyboard dictionaries can’t keep up with new words.
That’s my biggest pet peeve, when it auto suggests words that don’t exist.
Or how about with apple, when it autocorrects a word, and you want to manually click to the middle of the word, or even to the beginning or end, it fuckin highlights the word endlessly. That’s one of the most frustrating for me.
I’ve Al’s it entirely stopped using swype because it’s so dogshit now. I used to love it.
Swype typing still working awesome for me on Gboard.
What’s Gboard?
Edit: ugh, it’s google? That it’s own problem I’d like to avoid
It would solve two of your problems though, that’s a pretty good bargain.
This sounds like user error to me. Hold the spacebar, then drag your thumb to move the cursor exactly where you want it.
Fully aware of that function. As I said elsewhere, it just doesn’t come naturally to me to do that. It’s like using the arrows on a keyboard to move the cursor through text. It works, but I just use the mouse and click where I want to edit. If using the mouse didn’t work in certain instances, I’d have the same complaint. I want to click where I want, when I want. Not use a function I don’t naturally use when the computer forces me to. See what I’m saying? Doesn’t change the problem that there’s a workaround. It shouldn’t need a workaround for a super basic, incredibly common function.
Actually using the arrows along with ctrl and shift is much faster than taking your hands off the keyboard and using the mouse. Would recommend
Complete garbage. It has to have gotten worse. Like it’s training ai instead of trying to help us.
