• unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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    5 months ago

    What you should really take away from these numbers is that lemmy.world should close their registrations. If they dont, they should be seen as a bad actor trying to take majority control of the lemmyverse.

      • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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        5 months ago

        People can choose what they want, but i want server admins to be aware of the possible negative impacts their own dominance might have.

        Any one server should not have an interest in having many users, because there is no commercial benefit. If a server doesnt do anything against becoming a monopoly it either wants to have the ultimate power to moderate peoples speech or has hidden profit motives like selling their userbase to some company or running advertisements.

        Large servers are the beginning of the end in a decentralized system that depends on having as much federation as possible.

        If you defederate lemmy.world there is a huge drop in posts, but if you dont then the problem gets worse. If lemmy.world admins were to stop federating, half the lemmyverse collapses and even more people will move to an account on lemmy.world to keep their content source.

        We dont even need meta/threads for these problems, any regular lemmy server can be the one that splits the userbase.

      • Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.eeEnglish
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        5 months ago

        The paradox of tolerance applied to this situation suggests that in order to keep a community where choice is preserved, we need to be intolerant of bad actors with the ultimate goal of killing that choice.

        Meta absolutely is a bad actor looking to Embrace, Extend, Extinguish the fediverse.

        They’re pivoting the overwhelming userbase of Facebook/Instagram into a sort of federated Twitter alternative that their users as a whole don’t understand but do generate content for, in an attempt to steer the federation architecture into something they can control and make money off of. It’s not subtle.

        Whether it will work or is even possible for meta to do remains to be seen.

        But, yes. To answer your question, we need to “deny the choice” of federating with what amounts to a wolf in sheep’s clothing to preserve what we have, because that wolf is looking to destroy it.

        This post demonstrates that all of the major instances on lemmy but one understand this concept. If lemmy.world doesn’t want to acknowledge what meta is doing, then they’re also a bad actor in enabling meta to do it.

        • Draconic NEO@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          5 months ago

          Mastodon.social had a whole thing a while back where they had NDA meetings with Facebook in regards to threads federation.

          It’s later come out that they are censoring Palestine content on their platform.

          So yeah people who often push for Federation with bad actors like Facebook are very often bad actors themselves.

          Thankfully Lemmy.world hasn’t been pushing any pro-Israel content, or censoring Palestine support, at least not yet (hopefully never).