Found here, where the image also has the text as an ALT image description. https://chaos.social/@saxnot/112349120606446433
Yeah, with that logic, life is no good because it ends.
and thank god it does!
No, I want to live for centuries at least!
I’m glad life ends but I’d rather have a few more centuries before it does! The two ideas are not mutually exclusive
centuries? do you realise how long those are?
If you close a business without going bankrupt, that is not failure.
If you part before death, that is a failed marriage tho
Sounds like a crazy idea to me. Next you’ll be saying, end a TV show before the ratings have plummeted to zero.
Best to end it while you are still “Master of your Domain”.
> climb the ranks of the navy
> become “Admiral and Master of the Fourth Sea”
> end it with a splash, a crack, a gurgle, and a “Captain goes down with his ship!”…
> BBC pulls in a new actor for your role and carries on two seasons more before abruptly stopping and still doesn’t resolve your storyline.
I’d say it depends on the trajectory, closing a month or two before bankruptcy isn’t really a success.
Disregarding the question but commenting on the material, I don’t think this is generally true. In labeling something as forever upfront (e.g., marriage, which generally includes a “forever clause”), it’s only natural though.
Contrast marriage with a “summer fling” — the expectation is a duration of at most one summer. Not really considered a failure (which is kinda the plot of Grease, dated though that may be…)
There was a great restaurant near me (Michelin star), and it closed a while back — the owner was upfront that he just had a kid and wanted to spend more time together. I don’t think anyone views that as a failure. A loss for the community, definitely, but not a failure.
I just created !justtext@lemmy.world in case you wanna just post the text instead of picture, because I’m perhaps irrationally annoyed by pictures of text.
Curated tumblr, microblog memes, Lemmy being wholesome, 196, lots of places it could fit and be appreciated.
Literally until the moment I read your comment, I thought that community was “microbiology memes”
Not on topic, but wow.
And if all else fails: !nowhereelsetoshare@sh.itjust.works
I think this is looking at it backwards. I think we shouldn’t view failure as a bad thing. Failure is learning. It’s part of growing. You fail at something, you’ve learned something (well, hopefully). Often you learn more by failing than by succeeding.
Like coaching my kid’s soccer team today: I want them to fail sometimes. I have a player doing well with his right foot and scores a couple of goals, I switch him to the other side and tell him to use his left foot “But I’m not good at it!” good. “I’m not good at goalie.” Excellent, here’s the goalie jersey and go get in there. That’s the point, I’m trying to make them better soccer players. If we just played into their strengths all the time, it would limit how much of a better player they can become.
At work, as a programmer, I try something out. It doesn’t work out because there was some unforeseen condition that causes my initial pattern to fail? No big deal, just redo the pattern from scratch (if, of course, there is the time for that) or rethink the pattern. And I’ve seen how often that solves some other problem, or makes another thing more efficient, or makes future development more easy.
So who cares if your coffee shop failed, or you’re a “failed writer” (I’ve never heard that before), if we don’t treat failure as a bad thing, then people will be more likely to accept that and learn from it.
Not the same philosophy, but also a very useful one. Would go hand in hand with OP
I think you’re right about embracing failure, but I think this is different: is your kid’s soccer team a failure if they don’t play forever? Or is it a success that they play some games, maybe win once or twice, even just learn and have fun?
Some things in life we seem to label failures if they stop after a season, as if long-term stability were the only true goal.
This is a very important point to make.
I made my own post about problems I have with what was posted, but an angle that I would love if more people adopted would be to stop viewing failure as inherently negative and useless in nearly all cases.
Failure can teach you a lot if you are capable of reflection and analysis, and failure happens to everyone, all the time, and is totally normal.
Really depends on what your goals were to begin with. Most people don’t open a business or get married expecting for them to end. In that regard, they are failures.
That’s what the post is trying to highlight, that people don’t allow themselves to view something retroactively as the good it had, only the negative, as if the end failure is all they got out of it.
I think I’m gonna disagree with the fandom dying thing.
From a system’s perspective - if it exist for a reason, for someone to use it, and then they stop using it and go away, leaving it alone without any use, I’d see that system being abandoned, lost, or dead.
Then again - someone can come back to it and turn it “alive” or active again!
I’ve been a low ranked, terrible Counter-Strike player since 2000. Probably will be until my fingers /eyes / ears stop working. That’s not success. But it is fun. Some stuff you can do “forever” and it be fun. Conversely the point in your post is important.
Normally I’d expect to see this stuff on !curatedtumblr@sh.itjust.works
Thanks for letting me know that that community exists! It’s one of my favourite subreddit so there being a Lemmy alternative is great news!
It fits very well for !eudaimonia@lemmy.dbzer0.com so I cross posted it there
I only see 3 posts in that community. Is it just me?
No, you are correct about the number of posts. But it looks like the community is only about 2 weeks old. And if they focus on quality over quantity that post count isn’t a bad thing.
Nice community
When you’re marrying someone you’re usually not like “lets try this and see where it goes” (that’s called dating), you’re more like “till death do us part” so yes, divorce is failure more often than not. Ending a relationship, not so much
I can understand your perspective, but I want to offer an alternative view, maybe less bound to societal preconceptions. I married my partner for many reasons, financial, wanting to raise a child together, wanting to share my life with them… But staying married for the rest of our lives is a crazy concept for us. The marriage has its purposes, but we both know that life can change and that we could decide that we had a good time, and that now the time has come to move on. A marriage is less romanticised for us, it has practical reasons. I guess being polyamorous helps with defining new relationship ideas on many levels ;)
So then why did you get married at all? Fun? Taxes?
I married my partner for many reasons, financial, wanting to raise a child together, wanting to share my life with them…
None of those reasons require marriage, so it’s not a satisfying reason. I want to know why MARRIAGE, specifically? Just checking it off a bucket list perhaps?
It seems to me that all of the reasons they provides are all reasons to get married. Especially raising a child, given the privileges that are afforded to married parents in a lot of places (especially in the case of adoption, or IVF using a stranger’s genetic material). Something doesn’t have to require marriage for the benefits of it to outweigh the cons for a specific situation.
The question seems to me to be kind of confusing. What alternative are you comparing it to? Some sort of local structure like domestic partnership?
The post I’m replying to was acting as if they had some new wisdom from being polyamorous and their perspective on marriage. But it sounds like they’re just using it as a business move which is something a lot of non polyamorous people do as well, and nothing new. I wasn’t asking what reasons could possibly exist to get married outside of romance or whatever you’re talking about, I was asking SPECIFICALLY THEM why they bothered, with their “unique” perspective on relationships. But it seems the only actual reason they have is taxes, despite their diatribe.
So your partner is contractually obligated to stay with you of course!
Taxes alone is a valid reason. So long as there are social, financial and legal benifits to the institution then there is no argument to have. If you feel that love or religion is a requirment that I feel your concept of marraige is outdated.
No, you are a misunderstanding me. The post I’m replying to was acting as if they had some new wisdom from being polyamorous and their perspective on marriage. But it sounds like they’re just using it as a business move which is something a lot of non polyamorous people do as well, and nothing new. I wasn’t asking what reasons could possibly exist to get married outside of romance or whatever you’re talking about, I was asking SPECIFICALLY THEM why they bothered. But it seems the only actual reason they have is taxes, despite their diatribe.
Entirely fair question and thanks for expanding, bit personal for online nobodys like us. Sorry if I came off as accusitory.
In a lot of animal species, relationships are lifelong. For most of their history, humans had life long marriages in all corners of the world. Why are you calling it "a crazy concept "?
It is because everything must end that everything is so beautiful.
The best way to get out of a business is generally to sell it though, so someone else keeps running it. Although shutting down a business for personal reasons isn’t generally considered a failure.
As for being an author, you only need one book to be a commercial success in order to be a “successful” author.
Success or failure depends on the goal. Perhaps outside observers can see something as a failure or success, but that doesn’t matter since you set the goals. As for which Lemmy community to post this to, I dunno.
