Ok I know the title is weirdly said but I will explain more here. I tried using reddit but all of the subs and topics I wanted to speak on were gated by Karma, so I searched reddit for no karma sub so I just posted on ask reddit,nostupid questions and I made one post on r/advice which I cross posted to relationship advice after which my account glitched. Turned out I had been shadow banned and I have no clue how. My theory is I posted to much and copy and pasting a post tripped the alarm but the post was a bit different on relationship advice and I did it once, I saw reddit from like youtube videos and tiktok and people cross post to subs all the time why is that an issue ?
But to get to the main ponint of this, why is reddit run the way it is ? In the sense why do they ask so much of their users hurting both the user expirience and the site’s ability to grow. The Karma system forces you into a position where to get to the content you want you have to interact with and post content you don’t care about.So you have a ton of disengaged user’s just punching their time card to get to what they actually care about. Imagine if other social media sites did this, imagine if you wanted to listen to sabrina carpenter on spotify but to do that you had to listen to 100 hours of Conway Twitty, what sense does that make ?
Reddit’s karma and age gate systems resemble a mobile game and while annoying when it’s done there you understand why it’s designed to get you to pay to skip it, but reddit doesn’t let you pay to skip it at east not directly.
Every other social media site wants to get users the content they want as easy as possible. TikTok is the best example the reason it’s popular is because it’s the best at getting you what you want with as little work required on your part as possible. The for you page fetches you videos your interested in, if your a creator the format of the app increases your chance of being seen and going viral.
Reddit on the other hand leaves so much of the user experience up to weather or not your post on ask reddt go gets upvotes or if you happen to know if a good sub with a karma limit since subs do not disclose their karma limit
Again for the last time, why ? Even from a selfish business standpoint this seemingly makes no sense so what am I missing
Reddit is run by corpos who tried to get comfy with the US government. The current US government.
Yes.
Why? That question always has multiple answers. Are you asking for a historical timeline? That might be the true story, but it also might not feel compelling.
Above all else, remember that Reddit feels many sources of pressure. They want money and users, but they also need to limit spam, and they don’t wanna piss off the rich stock holders, either.
I was an ultra early Reddit user, frankly it’s incredibly simple, money. Several years back Reddit really started blowing up internationally and we stopped the nerd shit several years before that, no more “because reasons” or “the condoms are under the sink” silly in-jokes, or recognizable friendly power users, I was a lesser power user but hit the front page several times. It becoming international was a little bumpy cause the grammar Nazis we’re struggling with non American users and other culture type things but in general redditors were gracious and accepted people who weren’t English as first language users. When Aaron Swartz was outed and subsequently killed himself I think it was really the beginning of the end. Once Aaron was gone, once the Trump subreddits started being pumped by Russian troll farms and the final nail in the coffin, going public for bigger profit there was no going back. They sold out to political interests then sold out for money. Greed for money and power killed Reddit. All that said, Lemmy is a lot more quiet, obviously but it feels like the Reddit from ~20 years ago and I’ve been really enjoying it.
My instance is being closed so hopefully I can find a new home here I enjoy as much, that’s the biggest downside I’ve seen so far, you can essentially just lose your account due to others.
why was r/thedonald banned then ?
a clone of that sub is one reddit. plus r/conservative and r/conspiracy are the main con subs.
I’m guessing it started off as some anti botting strategy, than later realized it’s a nice technique to force people to interact a bit more with the product the way it wants to be used.
Since you now went out of your way to interact with Reddit, you now have a stronger emotional attachment to this newly discovered scary unknown things.
I think the answer is that it’s psychological.
Everything makes a lot more sense when you realize reddit was taken over by fascists in a deliberate (and successful) attempt to make a fascist-supporting platform that has enough progressive cover to operate without criticism.
Aaron Swartz was made a target by fascist insiders in the DoJ deliberately to remove him from control of reddit, leaving it to Huffman, a notorious nazi sympathizer and authoritarian. This led to Swartz’s suicide and ever since then reddit has gone significantly downhill
Are you kidding?
At BEST this is misinformation.
Aaron Swartz 's legal troubles had to do with him hacking into and making available academic articles from JSTOR. He was facing 35 years in prison for this and committed suicide before trail.
And absolute embarrassment of justice.
But Aaron Swartz was never “in control” of reddit.
Please, you don’t need to spread false misinformation about this wonderful man.
And friends, this is what propaganda from our own side looks like…
just look at the comments mass deleted in r/conservative right now, anything that doesnt fit their narrative gone lol
conservative gets pushed to the front page and their users just lie their assess off with no rebuttal since it gets deleted
Why did reddit ban the Donald then ?
also Huffman is very anti Trump
Reddit is way more progressive then say X but even more progressive then mainstream platforms like Instagram,Tiktok and Youtube.
The Donald was so blatant in their doxxing and brigading that investors got nervous and they gave it as a sacrifice while allowing 20 even more rancid and less public forums sprout up
The userbase of reddit is progressive, the owners and admins are highly conservative 1%ers that have been linked to white supremacist factions
can you name me a like pro white subreddit ?
so I make onyfans right and being an Asian grl a nieche I tried to get into was WMAF raceplay. I tried posting on subreddits and within a few months most of the racepaly subs I was on were banned for racism and I got a temp ban on my account so I stopped doing that
Holy hell get the fuck off of my internet you piece of vapid cybertrash
I think your fundamental misunderstanding is how many people just scroll, lurk and at most comment. Let’s call those passive users. They are many and therefore worth catering to. Reddit, especially the big subreddits, are engagement generators. Their point is not to answer the questions that you as an individual might have. Their point is to maximize engagement. Providing the kind of content that keeps thousands of passive users engaged in the app has more monetary value than letting you as an individual post your personal question. So it’s geared towards letting users with a solid track record of creating engagement post easily, while being careful with users who don’t have that track record.
You can see this in supermarkets too. Hundred different types of sweets but if I simply want nuts roasted without oil, I’m out of luck? Why? Because there’s orders of magnitude more people who will buy stuff without reading the ingredients. The people who care about not having oil added to their nuts are so relatively few that they’re not worth catering to by a mass-appealing supermarket.
At least those are my theories, not that I have any inside knowledge.
It’s not fun the way it is. That’s why we came here.
I feel this way about the whole internet these days
Reddit is riddled with bots and has been for years, and they don’t care, so moderators went ahead and implemented Karma limits to prevent them from growing hundreds of accounts a day.
You also had people trying to get around bans by creating new accounts, since new accounts are free. A way to prevent brigading was to institute a minimum age and karma score to participate.
Fuck Spez.
Yup, spez is just a crazy doomsday prepper who has unprotected sex with cats.
Reddit is a platform that was plagued by its success for the longest time. It’s not really a platform looking for new information. It’s profiting off of the information it already has. Due to the influx of bot accounts that are on the platform, they have a bit of protection on major subs
Basically to answer your question, it’s a combination of they’re trying to make the platform look decent for an IPO that they’ve already missed their window for. And now they’re desperately trying to claw every little bit of information they want and bot accounts that are just spam or don’t add interest to the platform such as a lot of copy-pasting are generally automated out of the service. This is exponentially increased if you’re adding competitor links or links that Reddit has decided are malicious.
Sadly, they’re trying to get something which will never happen. But, because they’re trying so hard to appeal to advertisers and that IPO,
This issue was multiplied about a year and a half ago when reddit decided to remove free use of their API and then had massive blowback on it they doubled down, claimed their volunteer moderators were entitled and not needed which caused a mass exodus from the platform that it never recovered from. Why does this matter? well when any labor leaves, they also take experience with them which never fully recovered. Subs in order to lessen on that locked their requirements down using karma.
these issues are dampening the future Reddit experience. So if you’re not established, You end up leaving the platform again before you start trying to actually add content to it.
as a TLDR: Reddit is actively chasing financial value that no longer exists, and the users are punished for it.
Was there really a massive exodus? If so, where to? It definitely wasn’t Lemmy / Fediverse and I don’t know of any Reddit/Lemmy-like site.
There was a pretty large exodus yea, especially among people who created content and the moderators who were insulted during the event.
Being said, many didn’t have a suitable replacement to go to. Lemmy became the replacement for a chunk of them but, if you can find where the rest went, you have gotten further than I did. I assume they either went to discord like Pinball said, or just stopped posting in general. It’s a big reason that a lot of the more niche subs stopped having posts, and the reason that reddit as a whole is so much more toxic(interaction wise) now.
Was there really a massive exodus? If so, where to?
Investors understand what it looks like when the early adopters have left, and the early adopters have left Reddit.
Some came to Lemmy. Many were already on Discord.
They run it this way to create a massive smoke cloud to hide the way it’s really run. Purely dictatorially, for profit, manipulation and a safe space for advertising.
Have you found !reddit@lemmy.world that might be useful to you
I think the issue is you are posting too early for Reddit, you should be commenting for the first week at least.
Essentially, the coarse-grained spam-filter assumes that anyone that has a whole bunch of posts ready to go the day they sign up is a bot spammer. Even here on Lemmy, if you sign up then immediately try to copy and paste a post 10 times to different communities, you will get reported and banned for spamming.
The principle behind it is like any social space online or offline: if you are a legitimate new member, you will start on the fringes and slowly settle in, from introducing yourself to a few members, attend events, to then asking questions, before making any influential speeches or going into a leadership position. Anyone trying to fast track that will be met with suspicion from members.
Reddit and Lemmy are similar in a sense. you start as a lurker, become a commentor, then you are well-adjusted enough to post.
Again that is my issue with reddit, there is a lot no one tells you they just expect you to know
Redit wants you to use the site in a super specific way that is one disconnected from the way most people use it and two not obvious to new users
I think reddit still wants you to use the site like a link aggregator despite that format dying and mot people seeing reddit as a social community focused site.
The reason reddit beat dig despite dig being a more true to form link aggregator is because of it’s community features
In many ways, Reddit has evolved into what it is. Much like biological evolution, there’s all sorts of things about it that are vestigial, or poorly designed, or don’t really make sense if you don’t understand natural selection. Its also become a publicly traded company so in recent years the quest for profitability has been rapidly transforming it in new and specific ways that only make sense from that perspective.
Well, here’s hoping you have a better time with us on Lemmy! My Reddit account is 8 years old, but I stopped using it and have been on Lemmy full time for 2 years now.
