• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    The DEA has been stalling the approval ever since, regardless of pressure from Biden and Harris.

    So the head of the DEA doesn’t serve at the pleasure of the president?

    And the president can’t just replace the head of the DEA with someone willing to do the job?

    The only way Biden could override would be with an Executive Order,

    No, because he could just replace the head of the DEA.

    Like, your logic is a kid that won’t stop playing a videogame for supper. You keep saying you can’t stop playing the game because it’s not over, but mom can just walk up and turn it off. Then the games over and your not playing.

    Biden can tell the head of the DEA to decriminalize or pack his desk.

    But he won’t.

    Now you can make aaaaallllll the excuses in the world for why he won’t and why that’s good.

    But you can’t say he can’t fucking do it when he obviously can.

    You don’t even have to take my word for it:

    Although the President may not unilaterally deschedule or reschedule a controlled substance, he does possess a large degree of indirect influence over scheduling decisions. The President could pursue the appointment of agency officials who favor descheduling, or use executive orders to direct DEA, HHS, and FDA to consider administrative descheduling of marijuana. The notice-and-comment rulemaking process would take time, and would be subject to judicial review if challenged, but could be done consistently with the CSA’s procedural requirements. In the alternative, the President could work with Congress to pursue descheduling through an amendment to the CSA.

    https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB10655

    That’s from the people whose job is literally to research if and how our government can do stuff.

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      Yes, he could just replace the head of the DEA for non-compliance with his request. No, that’s not good leadership.

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            It’s not a team, it’s a government.

            If your boss told you to do something completely legal (and ethical), and you just went “Mmmm no” you’d find yourself looking for a new job after not too long.

            Stop defending this bad behaviour.


            And clearly I used the word subordinate because it flowed well with insubordinate.

            If the only counter you have is to critic some stylisation of wording, you’ve got no legitimate reason.

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              The didn’t say no. They have yet to respond, and the president cannot assign a due date. I’m in full support of decriminalization, let alone descheduling. I’m only speaking to an understanding of the situation, not arguing my opinion of marijuana reform.

              The minute you terminate someone you can’t control, you admit to being unable to lead that individual. It erodes at your respect with other team members, and inhibits your growth as a leader. It’s simply poor leadership.

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                Failure to act is as much a “no” as them putting it in words.

                The minute you terminate someone you can’t control, you admit to being unable to lead that individual. It erodes at your respect with other team members, and inhibits your growth as a leader. It’s simply poor leadership.

                That is utter bullshit. The minute you don’t remove a person who’s a problem you show what a poor leader you are.

                If you just allow the shit to fester because “I can change him” you’re actively making it worse for everyone else.

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                  I think we’re having two different conversations. I’m taking about addressing a team member that doesn’t agree with your direction. You’re talking about a long-term problem performer that has a proven negative impact on the rest of the team. One of those analogies is accurate in representing the DEA’s behavior, and the other warrants dismissal.

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                    We are.

                    I’m talking about actually using your powers to help people by pushing for drug reform that’s been desperately needed for almost a century now.

                    And you’re talking about irrelevant team leadership nonsense.

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        Why not?

        It’s what voters want, it’s what health experts say, and it would be a giant economic boom

        Like, you realize decriminalization was one of his campaign promises, and then he appointed the current head of the DEA, right?

        Did it just not come up at all while he was looking at candidates?

        BTW:

        Did you know she used to be pro medical and wanted people in her state to grow their own?

        https://newjersey.news12.com/ag-milgram-backs-medical-marijuana-bill-34885866

        Now suddenly she’s insisting it has to be scheduled 1 even though literal medical experts and the president are telling her to deschedule?

        There’s no world where you honestly believe federal agencies should be ran like that, answering to no one and ignoring science for personal beliefs that change without explanation

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          Congress is the problem with your proposal. Rescheduling can be done by an agreement of HHS and the DEA. Congress needs to pass decriminalization for it to get to the president for approval.

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            Nope

            Although the President may not unilaterally deschedule or reschedule a controlled substance, he does possess a large degree of indirect influence over scheduling decisions. The President could pursue the appointment of agency officials who favor descheduling, or use executive orders to direct DEA, HHS, and FDA to consider administrative descheduling of marijuana. The notice-and-comment rulemaking process would take time, and would be subject to judicial review if challenged, but could be done consistently with the CSA’s procedural requirements. In the alternative, the President could work with Congress to pursue descheduling through an amendment to the CSA.

            https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB10655

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              That’s exactly what I wrote. lol

              Descheduling is done through HHS and DEA.

              Decriminalizing is done through Congress.

              We’re done here.

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                The President could pursue the appointment of agency officials who favor descheduling, or use executive orders to direct DEA, HHS, and FDA to consider administrative descheduling of marijuana.