• kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world
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    21 天前

    Left hand: Protesters waving Mexican flags in the US are unpatriotic or traitors.

    Right hand: The names of the soldiers of the traitorous racist confederacy should be forever remembered and boosted above real Amercan soldiers and real American figures of good repute, plastered across our military bases, schools, and town squares. We should all romanticize these men who killed American soldiers in the defense if the institution of slavery.

  • Jumi@lemmy.world
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    21 天前

    I’m no US-American but wasn’t there a Union General who burned down a while confederate state?

  • tal@lemmy.today
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    21 天前

    Fort Pickett, Fort Hood, Fort Gordon, Fort Rucker, Fort Polk, Fort A.P. Hill and Fort Robert E. Lee,” Trump stated.

    If you evaluate him on military accomplishments, Lee was a very successful military leader. He also did a fair bit of fighting for the US prior to the American Civil War. He also politically helped contribute to having the war end without lasting bitterness and infighting. Further, he didn’t think that secession was a good idea; he ultimately decided that his first loyalty was to his state after it decided to secede. The Union offered to let him lead the entire Union military before he took a less-influential position with his state’s forces; the man was held in quite high regard.

    Polk, however, was a political appointee, militarily a disaster, and none of the above applies to him. I’ve no idea why anyone would want to have a fort named after him.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonidas_Polk

    Military historian Steven E. Woodworth described the shell that killed Polk as “one of the worst shots fired for the Union cause during the entire course of the war”, as Polk’s incompetence made him far more valuable alive than dead: “Polk’s incompetence and willful disobedience had consistently hamstrung Confederate operations west of the Appalachians, while his special relationship with the president made the bishop-general untouchable.”[35][36]

    Polk was from Louisiana, as is the fort, but surely there are more-competent Confederate military leaders from Louisiana, like Beauregard.

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      21 天前

      You lost me at “without bitterness and infighting” It’s been more than 100 years and some people are still fighting that war.

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      21 天前

      Absolutely no factiod about Lee could possibly outweigh the indignity of sending black people—who have volunteered to serve their country—to a place named after a person who fought for the right to keep them as property.

      Humanity first.

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      21 天前

      Another idiot said the same shit about Lee. You should read about Good Ol’ Lee.

      We were immediately taken before Gen. Lee (http://fair-use.org/national-anti-slavery-standard/1866/04/14/robert-e-lee-his-brutality-to-his-slaves), who demanded the reason why we ran away; we frankly told him that we considered ourselves free; he then told us he would teach us a lesson we never would forget; he then ordered us to the barn, where, in his presence, we were tied firmly to posts by a Mr. Gwin, our overseer, who was ordered by Gen. Lee to strip us to the waist and give us fifty lashes each, excepting my sister, who received but twenty; we were accordingly stripped to the skin by the overseer, who, however, had sufficient humanity to decline whipping us; accordingly Dick Williams, a county constable, was called in, who gave us the number of lashes ordered; Gen. Lee, in the meantime, stood by, and frequently enjoined Williams to lay it on well, an injunction which he did not fail to heed; not satisfied with simply lacerating our naked flesh, Gen. Lee then ordered the overseer to thoroughly wash our backs with brine, which was done.

      https://acwm.org/blog/myths-misunderstandings-lee-slaveholder/

      • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
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        21 天前

        Right? I see people flying Confederate flags to this day, in fucking Massachusetts.

  • NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone
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    20 天前

    You guys know if you’d just let the Confederacy split off it’d just have been some backwater colonial state with oil money and little else right?

  • Widdershins@lemmy.world
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    21 天前

    What will this accomplish? They renamed the Sears Tower and nobody got on board. Sears went bankrupt and they still own the name of that skyscraper. This just seems like today’s flavor of wet fart.

    • mienshao@lemm.ee
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      21 天前

      In this house, we spit on the name W*llis! It’s Sears Tower until it falls!

  • Empricorn@feddit.nl
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    21 天前

    It’s like he’s compelled to be on the moral wrong side of absolutely everything. Reminder: the Confederacy wanted to secede so they could continue owning and abusing black people for profit. What a garbage person Trump is…

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        20 天前

        First of all, it’s an “ellipsis”, “ellipses” is plural. If you’re going to contribute nothing to a conversation, at the very least don’t be wrong about your only point.

        Secondly, my writing is valid, according to the University of Oxford Style Guide, so you’re already wrong twice:

        Use an ellipsis to indicate a trailing off in speech or thought. We could do this…or maybe that…

        Lastly, it’s an internet discussion, not a doctoral writing dissertation. And it’s not even close to the worst punctuation on this site, so you can fuck alllll the way off…

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          20 天前

          It’s an old law of the internet that any complaint about grammar or spelling will contain at least one spelling or grammatical error.

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      21 天前

      There has to be some kind of psychological term for this. Conservatives are obsessed with triggering the libs, it’s like they live in a perpetual state of wanting to be an asshole.

  • RealSpiderLane@lemmy.zip
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    21 天前

    I’m surprised his favorite president is still Jackson, when we actually had a Confederate (ex) president.

    President John Tyler, who took over after the death of William Henry Harrison, supported and joined the Confederate States’ Congress later in life, though he died before he could actually take his seat in it.

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    20 天前

    Gosh, now I wonder why he would want to do that?

    I mean, the cons are always so quick to complain when someone points out their long history of racism and things like the Southern Strategy.

    Who is this for, then, if not for the racists in his own party?