How is someone that gets out of breath eating a donut going to protect and serve anyone?
Kind of an over amplification. Yeah, cops should ideally be fit-ish but even an obese person with a gun or a tazer can protect people, maybe not as well but still, and that doesn’t take into account the fact that a lot of cops are not actually on the streets but rather in an office doing paperwork etc. The problems are:
- There are maybe not enough cops that are fit for actual fights?
- Cops are ridiculously undertrained and unfiltered, giving us all if these assholes that really just like power.
Our law enforcement is a huge joke and the meh pay, high turnover rate, and low bar of entry attracts the type of people you wouldn’t want to be associated with to begin with.
But also, why are small framed 5’3 women allowed to be police?
Fact is, most cops can’t outrun or overpower a lot of criminals who chose to resist or flee. In actuality that’s a pretty tiny part of the job. The rest is tickets, reports, paperwork, arrests with no resistance, investigations, etc. you don’t have to be an athlete or even very physically fit to do any of that. Id rather deal with a fat cop that isn’t a dick more than a slim one who’s a dumbass.
to give an answer to a rhetorical question: because firing people based on weight is a can of worms being opened. while it’s still technically not illegal to fire someone because their weight makes them “unfit,” the ada can be invoked if said obesity is caused by a disorder (e.g., type 1 diabetes). this ignores the fact that it’s hard to prove that someone would be unfit just for their weight; it just opens up employers to lawsuits. a simpler way to think about it would be to ask yourself if the guy handing out speeding tickets is “unfit for duty” solely because he’s obese.
The easy way around this is to require passing regular fitness tests. If your obesity isn’t an impediment to the fitness test, then it shouldn’t be an impediment to your job.
From what I’ve seen, they don’t even learn about the law and often break the law by illegal detainment, searches and confiscation. Cops who served for over 20 years but don’t know people their rights. They often get minimal training while having to serve alone where everyone carries a gun. That’s asking for problems. And now cops in the US are militarized with heavy combat gear, while the majority is white and racist. So obesity is the least of the problems with US police.
I mean, where are they? Most cops I’ve seen personally wouldn’t even qualify as regular obese, let alone morbidly.
In a small Midwest town, if the police force has more than 3 members, I bet half of them are classified as obese.
By being racist?
to protect and serve is not their job.
To protect and serve the rich
“protect and serve” is copaganda, since SCOTUS ruled on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia in late 1981. “Fun” animated video to describe same: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAfUI_hETy0
And this:
https://reason.com/2014/10/22/man-gets-stabbed-on-subway-guess-how-hel/Also used successfully as a precedent when the cowards waited in the hall while a shooter was on a rampage in a school a few years ago.
I think the subway stabbing is the main focus of the Cracked video I linked. But, maybe it’s a different subway stabbing.
It is, didn’t have time for a video.
Glad so many know these days what they are and do
Lookup Philip Brailsford. History of brutality, executed a pest control worker for doing his job with his own personal AR-15 engraved with “you’re fucked” on the side, there is full video evidence of the man crying and begging for his life on his knees with his hands on his head, Brailsford was rewarded for it with a full pension and an early retirement.
Guns.
I think once you pass the physical strength/endurance exam to become a cop, you don’t have to take any to remain one. I definitely think that should change, though. Make them pass once a year to retain their job.
Fuck the physical part, they should take yearly psychological exams and have continuous education on conflict resolution.
They don’t even have to pass those if they don’t want to. In portions of America it is just: win an election, appoint your friends and lackies.
A lot of departments use the admission tests to screen out candidates who might be overqualified: they specifically won’t want the best. An overwight blob is preferable to an in shape individual that might think before acting.
There are definitely agencies that do exactly what you described. The one I’m most familiar with has a sliding scale based on age and they are required to pass annually.
Why are they also so clearly low iq, and hyper violent?
and why are they paid so well?Paid to keep the poor in place between wars.
Police forces deliberately filter out intelligent people because A) the job is mostly really boring, and smart people don’t like boring jobs, and 2) Smart people won’t put up with the open racism, corruption, and general bullshit of cops.
Ever notice on the news, that the local police chief always sounds like a swaggering, arrogant dumbass? It’s because he was promoted from a professional gene pool that was compromised from the start. He’s was just the biggest arrogant swaggering dumbass out of big pool of arrogant swaggering dumbasses.
That’s by design.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836
i have been to the US several times. Have you ever tried to eat healthily?
Its pretty easy. There’s fruits and vegetables all over that country lol
you have to make your own food it’s the only way
Or be wealthy
Heard from a local cop that it had something to do with the union. If the department wants to implement a standard the union would require something or other. Something about an incentive? I didn’t get the whole picture obviously. I know police need unions in case somebody sues them but does seem kind of dumb that it’s so difficult to enforce a physical standard.
Now I dont work in the law enforcement industry but I do work in an industry that has supposed fitness requirements although they arent enforced.
For us, the union told them “If they have to maintain a weight of X to remain employed. You have to pay them to hit the gym on company time or pay their gym fees and an allowance.” So the company filed that away under “fuck that”. Now if you get too fat for the equipment they just move you to a different duty, often one with a shitload of walking around.
It’s a fair enough requirement from the union
They are not required to serve and protect. US courts say so.
Beyond what others have said, different departments have different policies. They’re usually pretty similar to each other, but a lot don’t explicitly lay out fitness requirements.
I totally agree with your thought here, I’ve thought the same thing many times. I’ve see many very overweight cops stopping at gas stations and whatnot.
How can these guys chase down an assailant? Cops should be required to be fit. I’d say they need to prove weekly they can run a mile in like 8mins? Faster? Then, once per month they need to prove they can do a 5 mile, like 45-50 mins? Seems fair.
