Former adviser taunts president over links to Epstein while Trump threatens to cancel contracts for Musk companies
Elon Musk called for Donald Trump to be impeached after mocking his connections to the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, as the president threatened to cancel federal contracts and tax subsidies for Musk’s companies in an extraordinary social media feud on Thursday.
The deterioration of their once close relationship into bitter acrimony came over the course of several remarkable hours during which the president and the world’s richest man hurled deeply personal insults over matters significant and insignificant.
In the most churlish moment of the astonishing saga, Musk said on X the reason the Trump administration had not released the files into Epstein was because they implicated the president. He later quote-tweeted a post calling for Trump to be removed and said Trump’s tariffs would cause a recession.
unfortunately for musk, unlike with twitter, Russia won’t help fund this endeavor.
Any chance this just one big psyop? Are these people really this stupid…
extraordinary that two man babies who own their own SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS post some shit posts and probably fall asleep half way through.
An abusive relationship between two narcissists, one with a ADHD, the other with a huge coke problem. Stay tuned next week, same bat channel, same bat time.
hold on. which one is which?
I think the one with ADHD refers to the one with a ketamine problem, while the one with a huge coke problem refers to the one that’s progressing through dementia.
But I’m not sure, because their issues could be overlapping.
JD Vance is VERY silent right now, so I’m thinking this could all just be fake, and that the tech bros (led by Peter Thiel) are using all this drama to get JD Vance into the Oval Office. I don’t think this is a legit fight…I think this is all part of their long term plan.
How fucking stupid do you have to be to think JD Vance is the next best thing?
Oh wait… yep you’re fucked america
Well yeah, JD is great. He did things like… Gang up on Zelensky, so he’s got the general Maga crowd s vote and he killed the pope, so now he’s got the entire non-catholic Christian vote. Pretty solid.
There you go. Ignore the content of the screeching and look at what it’s trying to accomplish.
You know what would also get a lot more Teslas sold in a correctly Trump hating world, and partially decouple Trump from the political fallout of the DOGE mess?
Exactly what’s happening.
It was inevitable. Two egos as big as theirs cannot coexist in close proximity indefinitely.
I was a psychologist until I got burned out.
During that time I observed something countless times that is counter-intuitive but in my anecdotal experience reliably true:
Narcissists like eachother and seem to bond effortlessly. “you’re the best thing ever? Holy shit, I’m the best thing ever! We’re so amazing it’s awesome!” type thing. It’s fascinating.
That’s why I’m not going to be played by this. Elon and Donald both have something significant to gain by pretending to “break up with” Each other, Elon trying to detoxify his brand especially internationally and Donald by proving he isn’t Elon’s bitchboy.
They might be legitimately warring in public, they might be playing the media and the people, there’s really no way for outside parties to know at this time, and I wish people would pay more attention to the people Trump is hurting than this ultimately pointless real or not catfight. Invoking Epstein is low hanging fruit, as anyone who isn’t in Trump’s cult and paying any attention has been aware Trump is an Epstein pedo for years and years.
My theory is they want it to impact Tesla stock negatively, then magically over the weekend or at some point, they kiss and make up and the EV credit gets added back into the bill and they profit massively from buying the dip.
It’s actually very possible, but only if it’s two large and healthy egos.
Theirs are anything but healthy
I wonder if Musk will get the Jack Ma treatment or if Trump is a weak baby leader that isn’t as strong as Xi. Imagine the Republican party being weaker than the CCP.
He’s trying to distance himself because his company is burning and is using the media. Musk’s playbook is to attention and boost himself like posting about dogecoin. Musk is using the media, but his Nazi views hasn’t changed.
“[They] detested each other. Which makes sense, because they were both detestable.”
Gen. Sir Harry Padgett Flashman, VC
Wow they are arguably the most powerful people in the world and they are having a public squawky slappy fight like stroppy toddlers.
Meanwhile humanity is circling the drain. We are so fucked.
Fortunately, America has an affinity for reality TV, and so they’re distracted from whatever else this is a distraction for. I just have a part of me that can’t believe what’s happening.
Yeah, it really is hard to believe. It kind of eats away your faith in humanity. How could we let shit get so bad?
I try to focus more locally whenever I get bent out of shape over the more broad scope of life. I can reach out and touch problems in my area, and it feels good to get involved in trying to fix things. Will it solve Gaza? Will it solve Trump? Nah, but maybe I help plant some trees, clean up the brook in town, just get involved. Who knows, maybe it trickles up (ha).
Yeah, same here. Back when I was younger I was really into direct action. Big demos - there’s no buzz like a riot, fighting up against the police lines - and smaller, quieter actions. These days, I feel like I’m a bit too old for all that - and looking back I’m not sure all those actions changed a single thing. Except maybe made me feel like I was doing something useful. Also, it was fun. And I still think it’s important to counterprotest when nazis take to the street. But yeah, I’m more at the local level too. I kinda feel like getting engaged locally is maybe more useful than the big, flashy stuff. You can get stuff done, even if it’s not big changes. Lots of small changes add up. Plus, you’re meeting like-minded people, growing local community resiliency. If shit goes proper bad, these local community groups will become vital.
But what about Musks association with Ghislaine Maxwell?
There is no denying it any more, the US is a very corrupt country
Everything is about money here and I hate it so much. But I can’t find an exit.
Last week tho, totally deniable. Now, not so much.
I have been saying it for decades that the US is corrupt, but people have been dying it for decades as well
Lol
… I was not expecting this many people to (so strongly) take sides in what is basically a kerfuffle between two mega villains.
(Og) Nazis had a lot of infighting too, still fascist mass murderers.
thx for clarifying “og”
Never could have seen this coming… two narcissists that only get along as long as they’re powdering each others butts.
I think Elon did good work at DOGE and given his correct response to the egregious 3.8 trillion dollar budge bill, I think Elon would actually do a better job as president than Trump.
I know I’ll be downvoted to hell, but I have to say it. Elon is the better administrator between the two of them.
Do you know how much time and money is going into scrubbing and replacing every computer system he broke into is going to cost?!
Are you a moron?
I’m not gonna downvote you for expressing an opinion I don’t agree with, and I’m sorry other people are - we need views from all perspectives if lemmy is not too become an echo chamber.
But I think Elon did terrible work at doge. Even if you think smaller government is better, it has to be reached by a planned and controlled downsizing - not just by hack n slash random cuts of stuff they dislike.
I agree that Elon is probably the better administrator, but that’s kinda like saying a pig is smarter than a chicken. You wouldn’t want either of them in charge.
Like saying a werewolf is better than a vampire because they are only active three nights a month…
Wait, didn’t they have a whole franchise abut this?
(Idk, I’m not into soapy teen fantasy drama.)All I remember from the memes is that one sparklers in sunlight (I guess vampires).
It’s a fantasy and every writer gets to pick their own rules.
What years of having to choose between shit presidential candidates does to a mf
They’re both nepo-baby dipshits and you’re an infantile knuckle-dragger
I also totally disagree with the comment, but let’s not do insults eh?
Just responding in kind to OP’s insulting comment
It wasn’t insulting? I mean I totally disagree with OP’s perspective, and I kinda feel like there has to be something wrong with anyone who actively supports either musk or trump - but I think it’s good to have different opinions on here, otherwise we’d just all be agreeing with each other and it would be fuckin boring!
Holy shit that’s the most idiotic hot take I’ve seen yet.
The damage that dipshit caused to the federal government may be irrecoverable. I’m sure you think that’s a good thing but the people he got rid of were the people who’s job it was to investigate when someone like PG&E dumps chemicals in to the drinking water or when insurance companies just blanket deny claims.
He wants, and did his best to create rich people anarchy.
Not only that but he violated union contracts and a handful of laws to do it. Half the people he tried to fire have already been hired back. The government is going to have to pay back all the wages and may be liable for other damages too. In his profoundly illegal and unethical attempt to deregulate himself, he actually cost you money. He made services you need and rely on every day whether you think you do or not, harder and more expensive to access.
You will be subsidizing this moron’s purge for the rest of your life.
Only if he first gives away all his assets.
But then we wound just see how incompetent is without capital/money to do the work for him. Even decide for him what work needs to be done.
Otherwise … You know, 18h refine regular shifts instead of 8, tax cuts for the rich, competition bashing, building monopolies, selling to the highest bidder, etc.
It’s pretty all out and clear, the what & what nots I mean.
