Three Barnard College students, including US lawmaker Ilhan Omar’s daughter Isra Hirsi, have been suspended for participation in an ongoing Gaza solidarity protest encampment at Columbia University in New York City.

The suspension of the three students came as university administrators called on the New York Police Department (NYPD) to dismantle the tents that had been set up earlier on Wednesday.

Several students told MEE that heavily armed police dressed in riot gear entered the university lawns on Thursday to tear down the 50-plus tents. By late Thursday afternoon, the camps were gone and dozens of students had been arrested.

The developments on Thursday followed the revelations that three students - Isra Hirsi, 21, along with Maryam Iqbal, 18, and Soph Dinu, 21 - had received letters earlier in the day informing them they had been suspended, effective immediately, due to refusing to pay heed to calls to end their protest.

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    I didn’t realize biden has to support genocide.

    Do I have to break out the polls again? Or do you just not understand what ‘democracy’ means? “Democracy” doesn’t mean “What I agree with, and the more I agree with it, the more democratic it is”.

    Mighty convenient for that lover of genocide to have the other guy be worse, must be one reason why the democrats helped trump be the republican nominee in the first place.

    … how many Republican candidates, do you think, would be better or even equal to Biden on the issue?

    Please. Regale me.

    Here you are helping them out with their brilliant strategy while thinking democrats will ever improve things. Why would they bother when they have an infinite supply of worse candidates to run against?

    “Wow, I can’t believe that the candidate who won the Dem primary (or presumed she was going to win even before she did) wanted the weakest possible candidate as opposition! She should have fought for the STRONGEST candidate to oppose her to emerge from the GOP primary!”

    It would be great if you could do something other than parrot the talking points of your fellow fascists.

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      Do I have to break out the polls again? Or do you just not understand what ‘democracy’ means? “Democracy” doesn’t mean “What I agree with, and the more I agree with it, the more democratic it is”.

      These polls?: https://news.gallup.com/poll/642695/majority-disapprove-israeli-action-gaza.aspx

      … how many Republican candidates, do you think, would be better or even equal to Biden on the issue?

      I see you missed the point in my post where having the republican party as an excuse means nothing will ever improve. Nice job defending this system even after having it spelled out for you. Genocide is unacceptable, full stop.

      “Wow, I can’t believe that the candidate who won the Dem primary (or presumed she was going to win even before she did) wanted the weakest possible candidate as opposition! She should have fought for the STRONGEST candidate to oppose her to emerge from the GOP primary!”

      If you’re funding fascists, you get fascists. It’s not a risk worth taking, but democrats are either brain-dead morons or they don’t mind fascism because it gives them an excuse to never improve anything. Either way, they keep doing it: https://nypost.com/2022/09/12/democrats-spend-53m-to-boost-far-right-gop-candidates/

      Trump wasn’t the weakest candidate at all in 2016. He promised changed in an election year where people were hungry for change. Meanwhile galaxy brain Hillary promised more of the same, insisting that the status quo was fine. Oh look, another mistake democrats keep committing, the geniuses that they are.

      It would be great if you could do something other than parrot the talking points of your fellow fascists.

      You’re calling me a fascist yet you defend genocide.

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        Disapproval of the Israeli response is not the same as support for removing support from Israel

        I see you missed the point in my post where having the republican party as an excuse means nothing will ever improve.

        Yes, that’s why nothing has ever improved. Thanks. Great talk. 10/10 for illiteracy in modern history.

        Genocide is unacceptable, full stop.

        Right, so mind reminding me why you’re so eager to have a genocide in the US?

        If you’re funding fascists, you get fascists.

        There wasn’t a non-fascist going to win the GOP’s primary, unless you’re eager to play apologist for even MORE Christofascists. Which, honestly, wouldn’t surprise me at this point.

        Trump wasn’t the weakest candidate at all in 2016.

        lmao

        He lost the popular vote to Hillary fucking Clinton.

        I don’t think you can get much weaker than that.

        You’re calling me a fascist yet you defend genocide.

        I’m defending genocide because… I don’t want a genocide in the USA.

        That’s a curious definition of defending genocide, but I suppose fascists aren’t known for their attachment to the meaning of words.

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          Yes, that’s why nothing has ever improved. Thanks. Great talk. 10/10 for illiteracy in modern history.

          Actually yeah, which is why obama continued bush’s surveillance state, bailouts for the rich, and wars. It’s why biden continued trump’s trade war, border policies, and sucking israel’s dick.

          Right, so mind reminding me why you’re so eager to have a genocide in the US?

          I’m doing this by thinking biden should listen to his constituents and stop the genocide? Apparently you think biden is wise in ignoring voters so that he can continue supporting genocide. Here’s a win-win for you: biden stops supporting genocide abroad AND we don’t have a genocide in the US because he’d gain voter approval. Easiest victory of all time, but you’re so supportive of genocide and democrats are fond of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. By the way, I provided poll numbers to support my argument, what happened to the poll numbers you claimed you had?

          There wasn’t a non-fascist going to win the GOP’s primary, unless you’re eager to play apologist for even MORE Christofascists. Which, honestly, wouldn’t surprise me at this point.

          There isn’t a non-fascist republican because democrats intentionally let them be the worst they can be so they can look good by comparison to that extremely low bar. The overton window is being pulled to the right by republicans and pushed to the right by democrats. Again, democrats actively support the worst of the worst: https://nypost.com/2022/09/12/democrats-spend-53m-to-boost-far-right-gop-candidates/

          and you fall for it.

          lmao. He lost the popular vote to Hillary fucking Clinton. I don’t think you can get much weaker than that.

          Doesn’t matter when he became president. Democrats could’ve nominated Bernie Sanders, who polled better against trump: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/may/29/bernie-sanders/bernie-sanders-says-he-polls-better-against-donald/

          But of course the democrats just had to have their queen as the nominee, so they snatched defeat from the jaws for victory yet again.

          I’m defending genocide because… I don’t want a genocide in the USA. That’s a curious definition of defending genocide, but I suppose fascists aren’t known for their attachment to the meaning of words.

          So you could stop genocide both here and abroad by pressuring biden to listen to his constituents but you think it’s best to ignore voters. Don’t be surprised if your brilliant strategy doesn’t work.

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            Yes, that’s why nothing has ever improved.

            Actually yeah,

            Imagine being this privileged, lmao.

            There isn’t a non-fascist republican because democrats intentionally let them be the worst they can be so they can look good by comparison to that extremely low bar.

            Ah, yes, it’s the fault of the Democrats that Republican voters love fascism. This is the exact kind of bootlicking bullshit that fascist apologists have pulled since the 1930s.

            I’m doing this by thinking biden should listen to his constituents and stop the genocide?

            Nice, glad you didn’t read the poll I linked to which quite clearly laid out that a majority of American voters do not support a harder line on Israel (as absurd as that is), great talk.

            We’re done here.

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              Imagine being this privileged, lmao.

              You say, as you dismiss the 30,000+ deaths and counting in Palestine.

              Ah, yes, it’s the fault of the Democrats that Republican voters love fascism. This is the exact kind of bootlicking bullshit that fascist apologists have pulled since the 1930s.

              The same 1930s where the capitalists were all on board with fascism because they’d rather that than the communism that was rising thanks to the many grievances of the people? You know, like how the democrats promote fascism over the socialist programs that Bernie promoted? Democrats fought harder against Bernie than Trump. You couldn’t have picked a worse example to make your point. Congratulations, you played yourself.

              Nice, glad you didn’t read the poll I linked to which quite clearly laid out that a majority of American voters do not support a harder line on Israel (as absurd as that is), great talk.

              Your poll talks about hamas vs israel. That’s like asking if you approve of osama bin laden or the Iraq war. Further down on your link, it asks if people think biden is striking the right balance on israel and the highest option is “not sure” at 40% with the second option being “favoring the israelis too much” at 22%. Another case of you playing yourself. Also, your poll was from back in february and more and more people are seeing israel for the genocidal apartheid regime that it is. My poll is more clear in its question of asking about israel’s actions in Gaza and the majority clearly do not approve. My poll is from march.

              We’re done here.

              You’re done playing yourself? Congratulations! I just hope you can find it in your heart to stop simping for genocide and stop defending a strategy where the democratic party actively promotes fascists to make themselves look better.

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                You say, as you dismiss the 30,000+ deaths and counting in Palestine.

                There were even more civilian deaths in the Russian wars against Chechnya, yet communists were all on board.

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                  That’s terrible, but I don’t know what that has to do with this discussion.

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                  They say, implying the US president could have stopped it with one phone call, or simply stopped giving the weapons to the people doing the killing.

                  It’s amazing the leaps of logic these assholes will go to trying to rationalize still being the good guys while directly causing a genocide.

                  Self-righteousness is a hell of a drug.