• MacN'Cheezus@lemmy.today
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    5 months ago

    You can participate in society just fine without buying a car from Elon. There are plenty of alternatives, including fully electric ones, available.

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      And a person who already owns a Tesla can then discover that Elon is crazy, hence the bumper sticker. You may find this shocking, but other people on this planet exist who have different experiences than you.

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        They could sell the car and buy a different one if they really cared.

        There are plenty of EVs available these days, including some that are just as fast and/or luxurious as a Tesla.

        This is like driving a massive V8 truck with a “climate change is real” bumper sticker if you ask me. And I bet you’d have no problem seeing the irony then, would you.

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          They could sell the car and buy a different one if they really cared.

          Not everyone can afford to do that. And the cost isn’t the only consideration. Availability of compatible charging stations, comparable range/cost, and an number of other factors come into play that you keep ignoring. It’s just not that simple for most people.

          This is like driving a massive V8 truck with a “climate change is real” bumper sticker if you ask me

          It’s nothing like that at all

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            Not everyone can afford to do that.

            If you can afford a Tesla, I’m pretty sure you can afford almost any other car on the market.

            It’s nothing like that at all

            Ah, now that you say so… I’m totally convinced and will immediately change my mind. /s

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              If you can afford a Tesla, I’m pretty sure you can afford almost any other car on the market.

              You don’t know that, unless you claim psychic knowledge of the finances of every Tesla owner— rather than admit you’re wrong, lol

              Ah, now that you say so… I’m totally convinced and will immediately change my mind. /s

              So you’re just here to troll in bad faith, not have a rational discussion. Got it.

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                You don’t know that, unless you claim psychic knowledge of the finances of every Tesla owner— rather than admit you’re wrong, lol

                I’m sorry but if your finances really are in that bad a shape, wouldn’t it make sense to sell the Tesla and buy a Prius instead? Is their resale value really THAT awful?

                So you’re just here to troll in bad faith, not have a rational discussion. Got it.

                “No, it’s not like that” isn’t an argument, it’s merely an opinion. Sorry, but that’s not how rational discussions work.

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        Perhaps not, but believe it or not, you CAN sell your car and buy a different one instead. If you actually hate him that badly, that is.

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          You can sell your car and buy a different one instead if you have enough money to pay the extra on top of the trade-in and if you don’t mind being needlessly wasteful because you hate the president of the company you bought the car from when you didn’t hate him yet.

          Why would any rational person do such a thing?

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            If you have the money to afford a Tesla I’m just going to assume that you have the money to buy almost any other car as well.

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              That’s an odd assumption. Especially when the cost of living has risen substantially since 2008 when Teslas first came out.

              It sounds more like you have money to be able to afford to do such things.

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                There’s over half a million homeless people in this country and you want me to care about mildly inconveniencing someone who drives a Tesla? Please.

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                  “These people are suffering, therefore this other person should do something wasteful that they may not be able to afford” is not rational.

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                  The way you use homeless people as a bludgeon in a discussion about Teslas and to evade accusations about your financial privilege, it doesn’t seem like you care about them, either.

                  Didn’t you just accuse me in another comment of being blind to irony?

                  :P