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      No thanks, I’ll just fuck a fleshlight instead. Much better than a real vagina with a condom.

      BTW condom dissent is majorly censored all accross the internet, even though it is an almost universally held belief that condom sex is shit sex not worth having.

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        “I forego the ability to have children in case I get raped and do not take the morning after pill”

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          yes, exactly, you figured it out, congratulations.

          People would genuinely rather not being able to have children (it’s reversible most of the time, though not always) than be raped and have to support a child they are simply not capable of or ready to support.

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              probably because the morning after pill is potentially illegal, or possibly, soon to be illegal. As well as all of the potential red tape surrounding it.

              Getting sterilized now, and not having to answer questions in front of a judge asking you why you took a morning after pill after getting raped is always going to be preferable. Plus a lot of these people already don’t want children. So it’s not like it makes a difference to them.

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      If you are going to have casual sex, you still need to wear a condom, what are you talking about? The lack of sex education in this thread is incredible.

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    People are simply not going to be forced to have kids. Repuglicans are completely blind to that fact

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      Well, except for the quiver-full crowd and all the women indoctrinated into the barefoot and pregnant school of thought.

      In other words, the poor, stupid, and indoctrinated will continue to spew out kids while the educated and reasoned will make the choice not to, therefore the stupid will inherit the earth.

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        That is literally the logical falicy that Idiocracy makes fun of and nature vs. nurture is still an ongoing discussion.

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          I don’t see how that depends on it being nature or nurture. Nature: they will be like their parents because of genetics. Nurture: they will be like their parents because that’s who’s raising them.

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        Didnt read all of it but what i did read was quite interesting. Just as interesting was the lack of popups and banner ads on the page.

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          That is a very good magazine and I read it a lot. High quality.

          Read past tense though as it seemed to be cancelled.

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    Don’t mind me, my trans ass is just over here laughing about how “concerned” the GOP is about trans kids’ fertility while lighting a fire under the ass of cis adults (which you may have noticed greatly outnumber trans children!) to get themselves permanently sterilized.

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      Also they love to make it a pain in the ass to bank genetic material. Like, if they covered that in health insurance a lot of trans people would just in case

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      People should be paying you to get a vasectomy. When I got mine (8 years ago now?) it was $800. It is the single most effective thing one can do for the environment, and is a real vote against these tyrannous governments oppressing people (women specifically in the case of banning abortion).

      For women, sterilization is involved and dangerous. For men, it is a 5 minute procedure. Do it!

      Start taking the steps!

      Don’t forget that after you get it, you need to wait around 6 months before you’re sterile. Then, you need to get your sperm count checked. It is important, the vasectomy is not immediate sterilization.

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        It is not six months. I was told by my doctor it was roughly one month, 30 days, and that was the time frame in which I was tested for before and after.

        It can, in some situations, take up to three months at the outside. But definitely not six.

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          I am glad it was short for you, but it varies in general. For some people it doesn’t take long. For others, it takes longer. For some, reconnection occurs so it is important to check again 1 year after the vasectomy.

          15-20 ejaculations typically clear any remaining sperm, but again none of this is universal and it needs to be tested.

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            You absolutely do need to follow your doctor’s recommendations and get a sperm count done at the prescribed times. But just blithely saying “it takes six months” to people is going to set them up with the wrong idea.

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        I have sent an email to setup an appointment. And my cousin told me the same thing about having to empty the tank before you’re good to go.

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        Greatly depends on the state. The ACA made coverage for female sterilization mandatory, though I believe some states have passed laws against this. A handful of states have laws requiring coverage for male sterilization, unfortunately mine was not one.

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        I do have insurance. I’ll have to see what’s covered. Part of it is just going through the actual steps of scheduling and doing all the leg work.

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          Usually insurance policies will completely cover it because from their standpoint a vasectomy costs them a whole lot less money than childbirth. For them it’s cost saving and they only care about the money. When I got mine, my insurance covered it and I had basically the worst insurance in my area.

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            According to my insurance it wants to charge about 600$. Without insurance, it’s like 800. I might just ask the guy if cash is cheaper.

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        I have some nurses in my family and have a recommendation from a cousin that got one from a highly rated doctor. If it turns out too expensive I’ll check there.

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    wait until they ban that too with these ghouls you never know.

    this will be an interesting example of the cobra effect though.

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    Banning abortion is really gonna pump those birth rates up!

    Oh wait…

    Fuckin for real good for these folks for taking matters into their own hands.

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    this is actually a really based statistic now that i think about it.

    Just sterilize yourself forcibly if you are ok with it. It’s a protest. What are they going to do, force us to have babies?

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      What are they going to do, force us to have babies?

      According to the Handmaid’s Tale (which seems to be their user manual) they will either kill us or send us to forced labor camps as we are useless to the holy demography.

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      Also you can have your sperm or eggs frozen in case you do want to have kids in the future. Take control of your reproduction and fuck these conservatives.

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    Can we just take a second to appreciate how fucking sick of a sign “MY UTERUS > YOUR GOD” is?

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    I wonder what would happen if even just 50% of all women of child bearing age moved out of the states that added these abortion restrictions, that would basically destroy the states population in a few generations.

    I wonder what the response would be…

    Probably something terrible, and possibly illegal that would still somehow be permitted…

    I am just a guy from Scandinavia looking at the US with complete disbelief that this shit happen in the west in this day and age.

    To everyone fighting for this to be repealed I wish you all the best, and to all of those in favour of these restrictions, just stop voting, and go away.

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      A few generations? One generation is enough. The population would collapse and they would be fucked.

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        Yeah any significant change in gender demographics of an area will cause problems. Too few men will cause some issues but our cultures have developed defenses around this problem thanks to cataclysmic wars happening every few generations. Too few women on the other hand will get real bad real fast especially since this will be a situation of existing misogyny driving women away. Some men will get real violent and those capable of living in either society will flee because they won’t get laid otherwise.

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      Forget population and generations. 25% of people just leaving an area will lead to a massive economic downturn.

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      What I have understood as a non American, the state would still have the same voting power though? So -75% of people, leaving just angry men I guess.

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        Sorta, but that’s not the whole story. We have two legislative bodies, the House of Representatives and the Senate. In the senate, every state gets two senators. In the house, every state gets at least two representatives, plus some amount based on population - california has 52, for instance.

        The original idea was to “make sure rural voices were heard”. In practice, it very much has been what you stated - if you’re educated but not rich enough to benefit from republican policies, you flee red states en masse, leaving mostly rich assholes and uneducated chucklefucks who are hurt most by the very people they elect. They then have a massively disproportionate effect on policy versus any joe schmoe in california.

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          The problem is moving isn’t free and there aren’t good jobs in rural areas, meaning… Move with what money?

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        The amount of electoral votes per state is adjusted based on its population, but they all get a minimum of 3. So, if enough people left, it would have some effect on the state’s voting power, but once you get to a certain threshold, the weight of each person’s vote actually starts to go up.

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        I wasn’t even thinking about that, a 50% reduction in women in child bearing age would absolutely ruin the future population growth of the state, and on an even more basic level, would mean that a lot of men would never find a partner in the state, so they would need to move to other states to find someone, which means even more population loss.

        At some point the situation would be so critical that there would be no choice but to change the laws back, and even after that it would take a LONG time for people to get the confidence to move back.

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          Conservatives don’t care. The people who stay in the state would reliably vote Republican, so that’s two guaranteed Senate seats.

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      (Sarcasm) Don’t insult the west by lumping the US in with sane respectable nations. (/Sarcasm) The US is a third world country with some lipstick on at this point. We keep hoping to turn things around and put us back on course but. Damn is it exhausting.

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        I’m in the USA and we’re a garbage country. Don’t get me wrong, there are good areas and good people. But our broken system allows the craziest minority to have an outsized degree of power and they absolutely take advantage of it.

        How a state like Wyoming, with fewer than a million people, can get as much say (in the senate) as my state of California is beyond me. We have almost 80x their population, yet they get an equal number of senators. I want a revolution that adjusts their voice to be proportional to their goddamned size.

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          I am too. There’s a reason I chose a lemmy host outside our borders.

          (OK, it was mostly so the government has free reign to accidentally spy on my international traffic because FISA/PATRIOT act are just so cool and down to earth. /s)

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          Did you miss civics class? Having both a senate and a house was a compromise between the smaller and bigger states. Small states could have been railroaded by bigger states with strictly proportional representation. It’s almost like you’re repeating something you heard without thinking about it much…

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            It’s a stupid compromise to make. It might have made some sense at the time, when society expected them to behave as gentlemen with regard for their honor. Now a much smaller group gets to bully the rest of the country as a result.

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      I bet they’d supercharge enforcement of the laws they’ve been testing - such as intercepting women leaving the state for suspected abortions, or parents suspected of taking children out of the state for gender affirming care

      The laws are set up that you could basically set up roadblocks and force a fight through the system to leave the state… Keeping people from leaving is important if you want a fascist state, because they suck and only “true believers” wouldn’t consider moving

      That’s why those laws are so terrifying… They don’t have to convict anyone, they can just be used to suppress movement

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      You’d give those states all the electoral votes and senate seats, and they’d apply their laws at the federal level. I’m suspicious that’s their plan. Drive all the liberals out of these conservative states that were at risk of turning blue so they can take their policies federal.

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        Also if it’s mostly women leaving, that makes it easier to recruit men into armies if they are told it will help them get laid when there’s a huge imbalance. And easier to elect leaders who push male superiority ideas and that women should defer to men.

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        It is, but a pregnancy with regular checkups, screening for potential issues, and delivery in a hospital isn’t cheap, either, even when everything goes without issue. If there are complications and the baby needs to stay in a NICU or have surgeries, it can be far more expensive than adoption.

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          Except if you’re not in the US. Don’t get me wrong, it’s still expensive to have a kid, but there’s no risk of going broke during birth procedures (complicated or not) in most developed and even some developing countries.

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        It can be. The system is intentionally bogged down with a lot of red tape to discourage people who aren’t fully committed to raising a child, especially one that isn’t their own biological offspring. The thing is, raising kids is expensive in general. You’ll shell out millions over their lifetime for basic necessities, education and enrichment. If somebody balks at the cost of adoption, they probably aren’t ready for kids yet anyway.

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      As someone who was single and looking on dating apps a year ago I wish they did. Would have made my job easier since I don’t want kids and not everyone puts that on there. I was extremely upfront about being a loser gamer (I play league) that doesn’t want kids. You’d be surprised about the amount of people who still contacted me based on looks alone and didn’t bother to read the bio.

      I was extremely upfront cause I know who I am and what I want and I’m not hiding it. Take me or leave me. Turns out It worked and I found my fiancee that way.

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        Same here. I’m dude who was very upfront in his bio about being an asexual nerd and I still got booty called by plenty of women who seemed surprised when I told them I was ace. And it’s not even like I’m hot. That’s not just low self esteem talking, I’m so generic looking people literally struggle to describe me and I think it’s hilarious. I’m pretty sure a lot of people (men and women) are just lonely and playing the numbers game hoping something works at this point.